re: So how does a court order override NCAA and not the SEC

I’m not sure, but the NCAA 5 for 5 rule and thus the lawsuit all came well after the draft, which they were automatically entered in believing they were out of eligibility.

With all that said, this all has gotten completely out of hand and I’m glad someone is attempting to rein it in. Covid ruined everything

I’m not disagreeing with you

For the record, NCAA membership is voluntary as well.

No you are dead wrong. If this federal court and you have anything to do with ignoring their order, you can be dragged by US Marshalls to the judge for a contempt hearing, no matter who the hell you are, even a sitting or former US President.

(Don’t ask how I know, but I personally know)

It's tortious interference no matter who is doing it. These athletes sued and won. It's not just football either. Conferences can't make up rules that have the same effect of that which the court has already enjoined. They can't punish schools to produce the same tortious result.

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The SEC is punishing the schools not the players

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Wrong - the rule is totally punishing the players. Now the 2022 players have been first told by the NCAA, you dont have any eligibility, you have to declare for the NFL draft. Then after they declare, the NCAA says "oops sorry, you did in fact have eligibility" - so the player says great, Im coming back to school to use my eligibility you told me I have under 5x5. Now after they sign a contract with the school to use that eligibility the SEC comes and says, oh wait, you signed with the NFL? - you cant come back or we will suspend your school for taking you.

These kids are just trying to use that year the NCAA promised them, and they are getting screwed at every turn. Last I checked this is still America, you cannot frick with a persons God given right to make cheese

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The players forfeited that last year of eligibility when they declared for the draft in my opinion

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You can't forfeit something you don't know that you have. Again, most of these players would have come back to school under 5 for 5.

Why is this particular detail so hard to get people to understand? It's not f***ing rocket science.

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You can't forfeit something you don't know that you have. Again, most of these players would have come back to school under 5 for 5.

Why is this particular detail so hard to get people to understand? It's not f***ing rocket science.

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Lot of dummies on here haven't looked at it from the player's point of view. Just a redline of pure amateur status, in 2026. If you're a bubble player who thinks he only has 4 years, you act accordingly. Most all knew their draft stock at that time UFA or camp arm or bubble roster. If they had a 5th year, 100% of them would have used it. If a bunch of similarly situated 2022 athletes get 5 years, but you didn't know you'd have 5 or didn't get the 5 because the NCAA acted late (by 2 months because meh holidays) or arbitrarily, then that is called an equal protection issue (schools as a government actor by abiding by the NCAA). SEC is duplicating the rule and carrying the NCAA's water on the NCAA's error and then asserting they are not a party to the court ruling. Ok. The intellectual dishonesty of "oh, they can do it, but the SEC can punish them ...." not harming the student's prospects is pure bunk.

The rule itself isn't a bad rule, but made after this just occurred specifically to block the 2022 entrants from their 5th year (versus all future years where a lost 5th year isn't a glaring equal protection violation) is the hole in the donut. If they were worth a shite, they'd make the rule effective next year so as not to worsen the sequalae of the NCAA's effup. SEC, you can have your rule, but you can't hose the 2022 entrants who have an equal protection issue that they have raised prior and been granted relief on.

The Kiffen Derangement Syndrome is incredible. There are dozens of 2022 football players affected by this and maybe 3 were going to LSU, and every media idiot seems solely focused on CLK. Instead of asking why these football players should not get their 5th like every other similarly situated 2022 entrant, or why are they getting effectively blocked from the two best and highest paying conferences (cartel behavior), the media and the OM Boards are just Lane is eviiiiil, Lane baaaaaad. I feel bad for those jilted OM fans, they are burnt.

I kinda hope the conferences take control and figure out a way to butt out the courts. Really the legal courts should have no place in the eligibility of college athletes IMO, that should come down to the NCAA or whatever organization all the major conferences create to govern it.