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Posted on 7/27/25 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17219 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Whoever lands him in the next two years is going to pay the most expensive trade price in sports history.
Not sure this will end up the case. Whoever will be in the running will be a high spender team that spends to contend. They will have to give up huge current pieces or their entire farm system. Any current stars will entail expensive contracts that the Pirates do not want to pay for. And if a salary cap materializes for next CBA, giving up a farm system is absolutely not tenable

He deserves the biggest ransom, but it’s more likely a less fat deal gets done the deadline before he hits the market
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 5:03 pm
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16714 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:25 pm to
Wheeler gave up 4 runs today.

1.83 ERA
2.56 ERA

About 10-11 starts left.
Skenes given up 11 less runs than Wheeler.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19660 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:26 pm to
Someone on another message board I was on saying Jacob Misiorowski was going to be better than Skenes. I don’t believe that, but Skenes is 1 month younger than Jacob. I didn’t realize that.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14287 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:29 pm to
1.83 ERA is sick. The fact that he has a shot to NOT win the Cy Young because some might see his W-L record as a factor is awful.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29690 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Off to a better start than Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Clayton Kershaw, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemons, Sandy Kofaux etc.

Learn to spell and who you’re actually talking about before making asinine posts like this.

Before you start making comparisons maybe consider when these guys pitched. For example, Ryan didn’t have a pitching coach until he got to the Angels.
When Skenes has the number of INNINGS, No hitters, Ks etc. as Ryan or Koufax or pitch the same number of innings, get back to me. These guys not only started but finished their games. Ryan threw harder than he does and did it for 20 years. His FB velo was still at 98+ at 46 years old. have the number of pitches or innings of any of these guys.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288627 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:52 pm to
It took Nolan Ryan 7 seasons to hit 11 WAR, which Skenes has hit in 45 starts, lol.
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
3366 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:14 pm to
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Learn to spell and who you’re actually talking about before making asinine posts like this. Before you start making comparisons maybe consider when these guys pitched. For example, Ryan didn’t have a pitching coach until he got to the Angels. When Skenes has the number of INNINGS, No hitters, Ks etc. as Ryan or Koufax or pitch the same number of innings, get back to me. These guys not only started but finished their games. Ryan threw harder than he does and did it for 20 years. His FB velo was still at 98+ at 46 years old. have the number of pitches or innings of any of these guys.


Lmao, you’re an uneducated crybaby. Someone got their feelings hurt I said Skenes is on the level as your childhood greats. Every guy I listed had a much slower start to their career than Skenes. Fact. I’m sorry I misspelt one dudes name Mr. spelling police. Get over yourself.
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16714 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:25 pm to
Not to diminish Skenes amazing start but league batting avg today is .245. Just hard to compare different eras.

In 2000 when Pedro Martinez won CY, league avg was .270

Maddux had a 6yr span where he avg 253IP/season

Pitchers now are lucky to see 200IP.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23780 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:30 pm to
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you’re the Pirates, why don’t you just throw out 10 for 500 like the Royals did with Witt Jr


Because he is going to be at 10-750/800 on his second contract. I think the Pirates ride him until they can’t ride him any longer. They aren’t trading him anytime soon. He puts arse in the seats and sells alot of merchandise. Bob Nutting doesn’t care about winning.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66731 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:31 pm to
You said Thatcher Hurd was just as good as Skenes. What kind of pace is he on?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288627 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 6:39 pm to
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Madking


If you are typing, you are lying
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
3597 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 7:08 pm to
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read somewhere that he is really good


I read somewhere that he would be lucky to be Tennessee's mid week starter
Posted by SeattleTigah
Seattle
Member since Oct 2021
548 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 7:36 pm to
His W-L record will have almost zero impact. All of his other metrics are off the chart. Ask deGrom about W-L record. If he stays healthy, he’ll win several Cy’s.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5210 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Love to see him as a Cub for the next 15 years


Da fuq?? It'll be Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. Book it
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29690 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 7:58 pm to
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It took Nolan Ryan 7 seasons to hit 11 WAR

The Mets didn’t have a pitching coach his entire time there.
Year 6, his first pitching coach at any level when moving over to the Angels, he started 39 games. THIRTY NINE in which he pitched 284 innings with 329 Ks.
Skenes has pitched in 45 games with 316 Ks and 266 innings. So Skenes is being limited in the number of innings pitched and pitch count. No shame in that but you’re not comparing apples to apples.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29690 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Lmao, you’re an uneducated crybaby. Someone got their feelings hurt I said Skenes is on the level as your childhood greats. Every guy I listed had a much slower start to their career than Skenes. Fact. I’m sorry I misspelt one dudes name Mr. spelling police. Get over yourself.
5,714 Ks, 7 No hitters, 12 1 hitters, 18 2 hitters.
Skenes = 1 complete game in 45.
Not hurt but you still have made zero case how to compare these when the coaches didn’t have middle relievers and these guys HAD to start every 3-5 days. It is NOT the same. Pitchers wear down over an entire season. That’s a fact. So wouldn’t you expect them to give up more or lose command later in the season?
Just stop comparing when situations are so much different today than then.
I am the same age as Ryan dumbass. Koufax is KOUFAX AND CLEMENS IS NOT CLEMONS. You don’t know who the frick none of these people are much less even seen them play.
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
3366 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 8:31 pm to
I can look at stats and see. I can look at old games and see. Sorry I’m not 75 years old Grandpa. Take a breather and come back down to Earth. Did you personally meet these guys, and befriend them? You don’t know who the hell they are either. By your logic you can’t compare any player in any sport. God forbid I said Skenes could be an all timer. It’s 8:30, well past your bedtime. I’m surprised you even know how to work a mobile phone, Mr. Keyboard warrior.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10727 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 9:22 pm to
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I can look at stats and see. I can look at old games and see. Sorry I’m not 75 years old Grandpa. Take a breather and come back down to Earth.


Tell him to check the gun's accuracy during Ryan's career vs current iterations. Who in their right mind wants Skenes throwing 100+ pitches for a shitty team anyway.
Posted by Pistol 23
Member since Feb 2007
624 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 11:18 pm to
Skenes probably sobbed uncontrollably seeing a 6 in the run column.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17219 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 11:33 pm to
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I am the same age as Ryan dumbass
Time to log off boomer
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