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Six Games in - Business Decision
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:32 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:32 am
Denbrock & Daniels or Ensminger & Brennan?
I'm not anti-Daniels. I think he plays hard, gives 100%. Runs the plays that are called. It's all on CBK. This is the offense he wanted when there were other options). This will heretofore be known as "Kelly Ball."
1) Les, post-'08, didn't require a QB to develop. CBK is at the opposite end of the spectrum. It doesn't matter who else develops. We could have the whole '19 skill pos players sans Burrow and the offense would be the same.
2) CBK needs to come to terms with his new environs. In the NFL Draft from 2011-2022, ND had 20 skilled position players drafted. By comparison we had 25. But of Kelly's 20 skill position picks, only 10 were RBs and WRs. By comparison 20 of our 25 skill position picks were RBs and WRs.
Brennan's Last LSU Action
For context, this was Brennan's 3rd start. Lot of new faces. Not lots of experience. Steve was OC. Arik and Kayshon were true Fr. All seems like a foreign country now.
I'm not anti-Daniels. I think he plays hard, gives 100%. Runs the plays that are called. It's all on CBK. This is the offense he wanted when there were other options). This will heretofore be known as "Kelly Ball."
1) Les, post-'08, didn't require a QB to develop. CBK is at the opposite end of the spectrum. It doesn't matter who else develops. We could have the whole '19 skill pos players sans Burrow and the offense would be the same.
2) CBK needs to come to terms with his new environs. In the NFL Draft from 2011-2022, ND had 20 skilled position players drafted. By comparison we had 25. But of Kelly's 20 skill position picks, only 10 were RBs and WRs. By comparison 20 of our 25 skill position picks were RBs and WRs.
Brennan's Last LSU Action
For context, this was Brennan's 3rd start. Lot of new faces. Not lots of experience. Steve was OC. Arik and Kayshon were true Fr. All seems like a foreign country now.
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:47 am to AlwysATgr
Can we give him time to recruit at least one full class in normal circumstances and get them in the building?
My god you people are ignorant. Lol
My god you people are ignorant. Lol
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:54 am to TackySweater
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Can we give him time to recruit at least one full class in normal circumstances and get them in the building?
You wanna set up a safe space for CBK until the new recruits show up on campus fall '23? No judgement zone!
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:41 am to AlwysATgr
I definitely don't think the offense would have been the same with 2019 players. Joe Burrow would have taken the same play calls and scored 40 points. He also knows how to check out of a play. Huge difference!! Daniel's won't even throw it unless someone is wide open. I do believe we would be undefeated or atleast scored points with Tennessee if Brennan was our QB. BK really messed that up!!!
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:41 am to AlwysATgr
Watched that whole vid:
- Damnit I thought Brennan would be special here. He really threw that MF
- it was nice seeing WRs make catches on imperfect balls
- Damnit I thought Brennan would be special here. He really threw that MF
- it was nice seeing WRs make catches on imperfect balls
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:59 am to AlwysATgr
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For context, this was Brennan's 3rd start. Lot of new faces. Not lots of experience. Steve was OC. Arik and Kayshon were true Fr
Yeah - In the first half of that clip I saw over a dozen passes that Daniels just does not have the ability to throw, nor the gumption to try.
We have nothing to compare that level of play to. I still cannot understand how Bannon was 4th on the depth chart in general - or that Daniels was ahead of him in particular.
Makes no sense at all.
And like you, Daniels seems like a great guy - but sadly just doesn't have what it takes to be a qb.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 12:35 am to Sterling Archer
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Watched that whole vid:
- Damnit I thought Brennan would be special here. He really threw that MF
- it was nice seeing WRs make catches on imperfect balls
Yep. Looks almost surreal now doesn't it?
Posted on 10/10/22 at 12:47 am to AlwysATgr
5 sacks against Daniels Saturday, how many if it were Myles? Myles can get the ball down field but he'd be dead by now with our OL.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 12:48 am to AlwysATgr
Man that video just goes to show how underrated MB was for such a terrible team. He was under pressure what seemed like every drop back in all 3 of those games and he still shredded the defenses. After that Miss State game he really settled in. Shame we never got to see anything past that. Don't know if injuries really set him back or just completely lost all will to play the game.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:06 am to deuce985
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Don't know if injuries really set him back or just completely lost all will to play the game.
You should check out TutHillTiger's comments on this.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:26 am to Sterling Archer
Nobody will convince me JD beat out MB.
JD was given the job bcuz it was promised to him. No kid is gonna start 3 years, then transfer only with the possibility of playing.
MB in that Missouri game was better than any game JD has had here. The throws he made are non-existent from JD.
JD was given the job bcuz it was promised to him. No kid is gonna start 3 years, then transfer only with the possibility of playing.
MB in that Missouri game was better than any game JD has had here. The throws he made are non-existent from JD.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:38 am to AlwysATgr
This is a no brainer, Brennan everyday and twice on Sunday.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 5:39 am to AlwysATgr
At the end of the day, the record would likely look the same. I just think this team is who most people thought they were. Like it or not, this roster has to be re-built. Miles was not going to be the guy that could carry this team to something other than about where we land anyway, IMO. It used to be that the back-up QB was the most popular player on a struggling team. We have now gone to new heights. Our most popular player doesn't even play football anymore 
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:39 am to ellis197575
Yeah, and you watch the highlights of all 3 of his game you'll appreciate his play more because he was on a historically awful OL still raking up 35+ points a game with laser beam throws. Was everything perfect? No. Then again, no QB is going to be with that much pressure in their face.
In that video above the throw to Marshall where he threw him open on the deep ball was a thing of beauty. The S broke his ankles on that play.
I really want to know what happened here. I know he didn't play for 2 years did the injuries ultimately limit his ability? He didn't look the greatest in spring ball.
In that video above the throw to Marshall where he threw him open on the deep ball was a thing of beauty. The S broke his ankles on that play.
I really want to know what happened here. I know he didn't play for 2 years did the injuries ultimately limit his ability? He didn't look the greatest in spring ball.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:43 am to AlwysATgr
Brennan looked smooth. I’d give anything for him to be here right now
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:53 am to logansrun
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5 sacks against Daniels Saturday, how many if it were Myles? Myles can get the ball down field but he'd be dead by now with our OL.
Probably still 5, but Myles has the ability to set line protections, read coverages, adjust hot routes, and throw guys open, even on the run.
JD can't do ANY of that. They get the play, he walks up to the line, looks left and right (clearly in a daze) and just hikes the ball. No protection adjustments, no reading coverages, nothing. Just hike the ball and hpe everyone figures it out. First guy not WIDE OPEN, tuck and run or take the sack on a blitz.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 12:29 pm to Antib551
Do y’all watch football? What qb did denbrock last coach? The answer is Desmond ridder!!!! Kelly and denbrock came together and wanted to replicate that with more talent on lsu roster! Well newsflash jd ain’t ridder. Brennan never stood a chance after jd committed.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:25 pm to AlwysATgr
damn look at those nice accurate downfield throws and some into tight windows.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:27 pm to WDAIII
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Brennan looked smooth. I’d give anything for him to be here right now
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:31 pm to AlwysATgr
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CBK needs to come to terms with his new environs. In the NFL Draft from 2011-2022, ND had 20 skilled position players drafted. By comparison we had 25. But of Kelly's 20 skill position picks, only 10 were RBs and WRs. By comparison 20 of our 25 skill position picks were RBs and WRs.
You mean on offense only?
We have had from 2011-2022 we have had 14 CBs alone drafted.
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