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re: SIAP: Bama grad Steve Shaw was one who upheld the targeting
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:08 am to Red Stick Tigress
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:08 am to Red Stick Tigress
Well if the Advocate said it, it MUST be true!
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:09 am to TutHillTiger
The announcers said the name of the guy on the reply booth that confirmed it while they were waiting. I thought it was Tim something but can’t say for sure.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:20 am to Red Stick Tigress
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Red Stick Tigress
Did you read the article you linked?
McDaid was the ref on the field.
Shaw is the replay official.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:22 am to Icansee4miles
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He’s also the one that moved Bugeyes into the replay office when his obvious on field bias got to hard to explain away. Now he screws tGump opponents in anonymity
More tin foil hat crap that is demonstrably wrong. Ole bug eyes has been the head of officials at another conference for almost 2 years now. Also was not a Bama alum, as some continue to state, Ritter is a Tennessee alum.
Shaw is a Bama alum and does deserve scrutiny, however.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:26 am to LSU GrandDad
Advocate quoted Herb Vincent as saying no reporter can question McDaid about the call. Why ban reporters and/or McDaid from addressing this call? And has Vincent ever made such an order before??
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:28 am to Farkwad
You people are insane. It was the correct call, and you’re all plain nuts. Get over it. It’s just a silly game, and you’re wrong about the call anyway.
You all have imagined that the call was made so that Bama will win because of it. That’s batshit crazy, plain and simple.
You all have imagined that the call was made so that Bama will win because of it. That’s batshit crazy, plain and simple.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:29 am to Red Stick Tigress
McDaid was the ref on the field.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:30 am to The Pirate King
this needs to be in the publc eye and not go away, which sex offices hope
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:31 am to BamaCoaster
Yes I read it. I guess I misinterpreted "McDaid reviewed the video..." as reviewing it in the replay booth.
C'est toute.
C'est toute.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:33 am to mdomingue
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Shaw is a Bama alum and does deserve scrutiny, however.
It's not even that he, personally, needs scrutiny. it's the we have a system set up in the SEC that is obviously ripe for potential bullshite.
We all understand the potential for people to allow their own biases to show through. In science it's simply called "confirmation bias." Because of this, we have double blind studies and ways to help prevent it from tainting the work.
In the SEC, we plop the offices down into the hotbed of BAMA boosters, staff it in regards to the day to day operations with locals, hire officials who ultimately all live near the epicenter of the offices, and have the Head of Officials who is an actual UA Alumnus and pretend that there is no chance that any of that has any effect, at all, on which program gets the benefit of the doubt time and time again.
Sure...there's a chance that ALL Of THAT may have zero effect on the workings of the SEC. but would BAMA fans be ok with simply moving the entire thing to say, New Orleans tomorrow and restaffing it with locals and replacing Shaw? What about moving it to Nashville and doing the same? Maybe Orlando?
This set up is beyond fricked and it's long past time to make this better.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:34 am to iluvlsusports
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The entire SEC Headquarters is a conflict of interest.
I posted this response on another thread, but it bears repeating here. I don't know of any other conference whose administration is so thoroughly saturated with individuals with an affiliation to a particular school as the SEC. It's absolutely laughable that the SEC can even argue that this is not the very definition of impropriety.
Even if there is no wrongdoing, it’s just highly inappropriate to have blatant Alabama supporters making decisions that affect other SEC member schools.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:45 am to TigerJeff
Mark Womack, Director of Scheduling, Alabama Grad.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:46 am to The Pirate King
Shaw was the one that ruled the Patrick Peterson interception was out of bounds even though replay showed Peterson was in bounds. This is only two of several bad calls against LSU under Steve Shaw’s leadership.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:51 am to Tiger1988
Great example, absolutely.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 10:59 am to GeauxTigerTM
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It's not even that he, personally, needs scrutiny. it's the we have a system set up in the SEC that is obviously ripe for potential bull shite.
Agreed.
Personally, I think the whole office should be located in Atlanta. Simply because it is the largest city in the SEC region, no SEC school has an affiliated undergraduate campus there and the SECCG is played there (I am not a fan of the city in particular, nor do I live in that area). Plus easy air access and a large, culturally and educationally diverse work force to choose from simply die to the draw of the city itself. But that is unlikely to happen.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:08 am to The Pirate King
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Bama grad Steve Shaw was one who upheld the targeting
But, but we’re lunatics for even considering questioning the ethics of this.
Oh the horror to do so.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:10 am to mdomingue
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Personally, I think the whole office should be located in Atlanta. Simply because it is the largest city in the SEC region, no SEC school has an affiliated undergraduate campus there and the SECCG is played there (I am not a fan of the city in particular, nor do I live in that area). Plus easy air access and a large, culturally and educationally diverse work force to choose from simply die to the draw of the city itself
100%. This notion that "Birmingham is centrally located!!!" as the reason for why it's located there might be the silliest of all explanations. Why would geography matter in 2018? Are we walking there or something? Horse and buggy? Wouldn't Atlanta actually be EASIER to get to, given it's airport being a hub and a one shot from virtually anywhere? Plus, all of your reasons.
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But that is unlikely to happen.
Corrupt organizations rarely commit suicide. It will require outside force to get real change...and so long as member universities are told that their valid complaints are just them being mad they are not as good, no real change will ever have the chance to manifest itself.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:13 am to mdomingue
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More tin foil hat crap that is demonstrably wrong. Ole bug eyes has been the head of officials at another conference for almost 2 years now.
As I’ve said over the weekend “head of officials” isn’t a full time role. They’re just in charge of scheduling, reviewing reports from the previous week, and grading out officials.
There are multiple senior level referees in the NFL and CFB that officiate on Saturday/Sunday and manage the conference work during the week.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:19 am to The Pirate King
And the review took all of 10sec?......
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