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re: SEC likely only gets 1 team in the playoff this year...

Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1461 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:32 pm to
Ohio state lost to Purdue last year. Weird shite happens. If the conference champs are all undefeated then sure a 1 loss SEC team wont get in but every year teams lose games they shouldn't and we are left with only 1 or 2 undefeated teams at most.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15875 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:33 pm to
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way too early to worry about this. Last week we thought the east would have an undefeated UGA team. Happens every year.

Agreed. The reason this sport is so great is because chaos can strike any week.

At this point, I'm going to keep enjoying this season game-by-game. And as long as we keep winning, everything will shake out in our favor. I figure the college football gods owe us for 2011 anyway.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3221 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:34 pm to
Which is why we need 8 teams. A one loss SEC team has accomplished way more than Clemson or OU.
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
882 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:34 pm to
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especially with Clemson, you can't penalize the sitting National Champion for going undefeated!


This should have ZERO bearing on what happens for the 2019 playoff. The fact that people keep teams in the top 5 because of things they did last year is a problem with how college football teams are rated.

It should be what have you done THIS year. IMO based on what clemson has done this year they are not even top 5.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SadSouthernBuck
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2007
748 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:38 pm to
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If this plays out, LSU prpetty has to win out for a shot at the NC this year!


LSU can drop one as long as it's not to the Gumps.
Posted by Danielsu21
Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
437 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:48 pm to
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This should have ZERO bearing on what happens for the 2019 playoff. The fact that people keep teams in the top 5 because of things they did last year is a problem with how college football teams are rated.


This. Even Clemson fans are saying this now...they have the fear of being jump but bring up last year or the year before. Last year is irrelevant

Really needed UNC to covert that 2pt conversion. The hardest team clemson will play all year is a&m. Every team they played so far doesn't even have a winning record.

We have to beat Alabama or we are gonna be that 1 loss team that played 4 top 11 teams that was left out while clemson played 1 #25 team all year and shoulda lost to unc....
Posted by BigOrangeWave
Member since Oct 2014
654 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:50 pm to
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I don't see OU losing (Undefeated Big 12 Champ), either tOSU or Wisc will win out (Undefeated B1G champ), Clemson will run through their JV schedule (Undefeated ACC champ)

You ever watched college football? Zero chance all this happens
Posted by Northerner13
Member since Aug 2019
142 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:53 pm to
Obviously a lot of football left to be played. But for me the most interesting scenario would be LSU, Ohio State or Wisconsin, and Oklahoma all finishing undefeated. Leaving the committee to decide between and under performing undefeated Clemson or a one loss Alabama. Especially if that loss was a close one in a back and forth game with LSU.
Posted by Danielsu21
Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
437 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:53 pm to
I know we say this every year and someone ends up losing but that scenario is pretty likely...esp OU and Clemson
Posted by Danielsu21
Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
437 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:56 pm to
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Obviously a lot of football left to be played. But for me the most interesting scenario would be LSU, Ohio State or Wisconsin, and Oklahoma all finishing undefeated. Leaving the committee to decide between and under performing undefeated Clemson or a one loss Alabama. Especially if that loss was a close one in a back and forth game with LSU.



With this scenario if you flipped bama and LSU with LSU having 1 loss I think LSU should have the better chance with their schedule compared to bamas. Either way us or someone will be screaming for 8 team playoff
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:57 pm to
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OSU: Wis, Michigan, Penn st, and probably Wis again.


What if OSU and Wisky split.
Posted by Northerner13
Member since Aug 2019
142 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:02 pm to
I agree but have a feeling we would wrongfully get left out for Clemson.

I would love to see the committee squirm over having to choose between their two darling teams (Clemson and Alabama) and feel that might increase the likelihood of expanding to 8 teams as well.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:04 pm to
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for me the most interesting scenario would be LSU, Ohio State or Wisconsin, and Oklahoma all finishing undefeated. Leaving the committee to decide between and under performing undefeated Clemson or a one loss Alabama.


you're out of your mind if you think a 13-0 conference champ clemson is getting left out for a 12-1 non champ alabama. Or anyone for that matter.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59067 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:06 pm to
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I'm not sure why people complicate this as much as they do. The ONLY reason we had the wonky situation in '17 with 2 sec teams getting in is becuse ohio state had 2 losses, one of which was the most embrassing loss of the year by 30 to a mediocre iowa.


This

And in 2016 when Ohio St went without winning their division it was because OU and Penn St had 2 loses and OSU had 1.
Posted by Northerner13
Member since Aug 2019
142 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:10 pm to
I think that is the only scenario where two SEC teams have a chance of making the playoffs if you have 4 undefeated conference champions.

Key word there is chance because it’s “Alabama” on the hook of missing out. And even that is a Hail Mary to get two SEC team in unless someone loses I don’t think it happens.
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
1414 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:12 pm to
I will take the scenario right now of the winner of LSU bama is in and the other is out at this point in time until another conference has another loss. I will take not backdooring in if Bama is guaranteed to not back door in either.

The interesting scenario is if Clemson, and the winner of OSU/wisconsin wins out. And LSU beats bama or vice versa and Texas beats OU. Who gets left out, OU? or the loser of Bama LSU....

With all that said someone will lose somewhere along the way. It happens every year at this point in time we can't see someone losing and they lose the following weekend. LSU will be the one seed if they win out. Clear and simple, win and you cant complain about anything.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1575 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:14 pm to
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This should have ZERO bearing on what happens for the 2019 playoff. The fact that people keep teams in the top 5 because of things they did last year is a problem with how college football teams are rated.


We are talking about what will or won't happen, not what SHOULD happen!
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Depends, if they decide to go with THE BEST 4 TEAMS.


It has always been my contention that no conf. should ever get more than one team in to the playoffs.

If you didn't win your conf. then it has already been determined you aren't the best in the country.

Pick the 4 best teams that didn't lose their conf. and be done with it.

If LSU wins their conf. and alabama (or vice versa) is the second best team in the country... that is a guess. That is subjective. If you leave them out, no big deal as they were already beat out in conf. play.

On the flip side if The big 10 champion and the pac champion are left out and one of them was actually better than thought then that is stealing a chance at a championship that they earned.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59067 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:19 pm to
Awww
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I will take not back door in if Bama is guaranteed to not back door in.


I right there with you on this

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The interesting scenario is if Clemson, and the winner of OSU/wisconsin wins out. And LSU beats bama or vice versa and Texas beats OU. Who gets left out, OU? or the loser of Bama LSU....


That would be interesting. Texas would have 2 loses but would have avenged one.

Don’t sleep on the possibility of Oregon winning out if they win at Washington next week
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
940 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:20 pm to
After struggling against NC, I don’t see an undefeated Clemson getting in ahead of a 1-loss LSU or Bama - provided the Nov 9th game is a close one.
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