Started By
Message

Scott Rabais (The Advocate) on the LSU defense...

Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:50 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93705 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:50 am
From The Advocate this morning...

LSU has gone all Ferrari on offense, but title hopes rest on defense catching up
quote:

LSU goes into its penultimate regular season game Saturday against Arkansas ranked 47th nationally allowing 367.8 yards per game

quote:

Including LSU’s most recent national title season in 2007, 10 of the past 12 national champions have finished in the top 10 nationally in total defense, including LSU that year (third allowing 288.8 yards per game). The only exceptions: Ohio State ranked 19th in 2014 (342.4 ypg allowed) and Auburn with Cam Newton quarterbacking finished 60th in 2010 (368.4 ypg).

LINK

These are obviously just numbers, but I found it interesting. This is also in the article...
quote:

Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 5:00 am
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32644 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:16 am to
quote:

Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.


Sorry but man or zone doesn’t make you take shitty angles and not wrap up.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Patrick Queen fills the wrong gap and lazily lets the QB run right by him.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Delpit can’t put a finger on a guy that runs a post route in front of him.

Check my post history I haven’t went at the defense at all in over a month but I’m sick and tired of them using the offensive success as a reason they can’t be half arse decent.

I’m also sick and tired of seeing our Heisman candidate in the game in the 4th quarter against teams that aren’t gonna be bowl eligible because our 2.5 million dollar coordinator can’t stop an 18 year old running a read option.

Offense shouldn’t slow down. Defense needs to catch up. This lack of effort, complacency, piss poor technique and bad play calls falls at Arandas feet. He has to be better
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5903 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:43 am to
quote:


Sorry but man or zone doesn’t make you take shitty angles and not wrap up.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Patrick Queen fills the wrong gap and lazily lets the QB run right by him.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Delpit can’t put a finger on a guy that runs a post route in front of him.

Check my post history I haven’t went at the defense at all in over a month but I’m sick and tired of them using the offensive success as a reason they can’t be half arse decent.

I’m also sick and tired of seeing our Heisman candidate in the game in the 4th quarter against teams that aren’t gonna be bowl eligible because our 2.5 million dollar coordinator can’t stop an 18 year old running a read option.

Offense shouldn’t slow down. Defense needs to catch up. This lack of effort, complacency, piss poor technique and bad play calls falls at Arandas feet. He has to be better


100% agreed, on all points.

What's the difference between a two minute scoring drive, and a three and out? The two minute scoring drive is longer. Why is it that LSU's offense put up zero points, and had multiple three and outs last year, but the defense held Alabama's high powered offense under 30, while this year's defense barely held Ole Miss under 40, despite being on the field for LESS time?... Poor tackling, bad angles, you named it already. But people still make the same lousy excuses.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 5:53 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5903 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:50 am to
quote:

frick you, Solo Cam. You are a whiney fricking bitch. I’m sick and tired of pussies like you who are sick and tired of a 10-0 team that’s ranked #1 in the nation.


Hmm... I'm SURE there weren't people who were concerned about LSU's one dimensional offense in 2011, while the Tigers were "ranked #1 in the nation". And when that problem lead to being shut out in the championship game, I'm CERTAIN that no one complained, because LSU had been "ranked #1 in the nation".

If your day is ruined by an observation that any honest person can see, then maybe it's best not to participate in forum which may contain opinions and observations that don't align with yours. Perhaps you can shout in the mirror how awesome everything is.

I'm enjoying the heck out of this season. That doesn't mean I don't have concerns about something that might ruin it. If LSU can simply play like a top 25 defense, they are golden.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:01 am to
quote:

If LSU can simply play like a top 25 defense,


It is not like we don’t have the talent to be in the top 25 either
Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:03 am to
These damn Aranda apologists are mind blowing. An LSU "defense" 47th in the country, and 9th in the SEC. Yeah, we're undefeated....Great season!!!! However, got to believe this shitty defense and DC will catch up with us against the big boys. Hope not, just saying......
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7962 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:04 am to
quote:

LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.
the stupidest shite I’ve ever heard. On what planet is a 2 minute TD worse than a 3 minute 3 and out
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93705 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:09 am to
I don't agree with it either. I was surprised to read that in an article meant to say that the defense needs to improve and even more surprised to hear that Hester said it.
Posted by Stretch Suba
Member since Jun 2019
1300 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:18 am to
Hester spouting the company line. This defense is unacceptable at LSU, especially for a guy making more than any other assistant in the country.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:20 am to
Well the once proud LSU defense is now a joke to the rest of the CFB world,if that’s not motivation to improve they never will
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
5570 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:21 am to
quote:

the stupidest shite I’ve ever heard. On what planet is a 2 minute TD worse than a 3 minute 3 and out

that's not what he said.

Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
2063 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:46 am to
People are going to cover their ears while yelling “la la la” but the defense is a massive liability going forward.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27614 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:46 am to
quote:

if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.



The horror.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14473 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:51 am to
Can the LSU offense complain that the LSU defense not giving them enough time to rest? With the big plays the defense gives up every game they should be well rested.
Posted by jacquespene8
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
4144 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:56 am to
What’s the difference between a 3 play scoring drive and all the 3 and outs our offense has had over the last 10 years? It’s just not a viable excuse.
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:59 am to
This offense will bring the Natty back to LA. Defense, lol, Aranda is a joke. LSU is getting robbed everyday.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93705 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:06 am to
quote:

This offense will bring the Natty back to LA. 

I agree. No one even mentioned my biggest takeaway yet...
quote:

Auburn with Cam Newton quarterbacking finished 60th in 2010 (368.4 ypg)

Also a dominant Heisman QB running an up tempo offense. It can be done and IMO The Burrow will get it done this year. I also expect that the defense will play better down the stretch.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 7:07 am
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5305 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:08 am to
quote:

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Patrick Queen fills the wrong gap and lazily lets the QB run right by him.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Delpit can’t put a finger on a guy that runs a post route in front of him.



I may be wrong BUT I think that Hester was basically saying exactly the opposite of what ur saying?

If the DB's r spent from chasing WR's every 3 mins with no rest then that would absolutely have a lot to do with guys missing assignments & tackles.

There's a reason that high tempo Offenses rarely have elite Defenses. This holds true in basically every level of Football, especially in College & the NFL. That can't be a coincidence right?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:12 am to
Aranda has got to coach them up better for assignment defense. The excuses of the offense scoring too fast are ridiculous. The defense was awesome when LSU was going three and out all the time.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23315 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:14 am to
quote:

I’m also sick and tired of seeing our Heisman candidate in the game in the 4th quarter against teams that aren’t gonna be bowl eligible because our 2.5 million dollar coordinator can’t stop an 18 year old running a read option.


first pageprev pagePage 1 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram