re: Reasons why LSU beats Miami

Great matchup before a national audience in a great venue. tic toc tic toc tic toc

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fact is I don't really believe it - I hope I am right

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That, as a fan, I can understand. Like I said in my initial post, I hope you are right.

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Although I do disagree on our potential SEC record. There's a very real chance we drop one between Florida and A&M. Talent wise, they're both pretty comparable to LSU. The difference lies in the HCs. Can O go in to the Swamp or College Station and pull a win against Mullen or Fisher?

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Oh I completely agree.

I want to make it clear I’m not predicting anything, I’m just laying out what is clear the bar should be for a successful season. It’s 10-2. Always has been.


UF and A&M are clear referendums on the coaching imo. Florida was an absolute train wreck last year. 4-7. QB situation as dire as ours would have been if Burrow hadn’t bailed us out.

A&M has been soft for years on defense. We’ve dominated that series as bad as Alabama has dominated ours.


Losing to those teams would be equivalent to Miles dropping off against Ole Miss and Arkansas in his last years. That is the type of teams they will be in 2018.


And I disagree that A&M has comparable talent to LSU. They don’t. Talk about recruiting skill positions and neglecting the trenches?? Sumlin was the absolute worst at that.

Florida is close but their QB situation is a disaster.

Mullen and Fisher, while both great coaches imo, aren’t going to change those deficiencies over night. All the O supporters said O couldn’t right? And they both inherited worse programs than the one O took over from Miles.


So if either of those two coaches get him in year 1 that is an absolute warning that we are in serious trouble against those teams going forward.

If we aren’t even focused on Alabama or Auburn and still have to keep worrying about the second and third tier teams in the conference like UF, A&M, and MSU will be this year then the situation is already out of control under O.

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"Hurricanes Dline gutted by early departure and draft and also loses famed Dline coach."
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In your opinion, how is this any different than people saying how good the LSU offense is going to be?

Or how is that different than Greedy and White being first year starters last year or Alexander this year?

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WTF is this shite? What I posted was not an opinion. I appreciate you wanting to know my opinion on everything but I don't have the time to educate you on all things football in this thread.

I will make it real simple. You used the argument that Greedy and White were first year starters and that they were good. You said that Alexander could be good as a first year starter.

Then, you turned right around and said people don't know football when they say Miami's defense is good because their DL got gutted and lost their DL coach. How do you know their first year starters won't be good? You can't have it both ways.

Same thing with the LSU offense that you like to pump up so much. That entire offense was gutted, not just one position group and they lost 3 coaches. So, I was trying to be nice about the question without flat out telling you were being hypocritical again and talking down to people and being a dick while you were doing it.

I would prefer the cordial discussion, but we can do it the other way if you must.

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Not the best formula to beat bama

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Hell of a lot better than NOT having Giles, Fehoko, Burrow, Tracy, Moss and Alexander DON'T you think.

If you enjoyed the LSU kickers being a combined 15-of-24 on FG's, missing 3 extra points and being ranked 103rd in the nation in FG kicking and didn't want to sign Tracy, more power to you.

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You used the argument that Greedy and White were first year starters and that they were good.

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Did not say that. I said they did not start until their second seasons at LSU. You attribute stuff to me based on your lack of interpretation or reading comprehension.

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You said that Alexander could be good as a first year starter.

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Again, did not say that either.

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Then, you turned right around and said people don't know football when they say Miami's defense is good because their DL got gutted and lost their DL coach. How do you know their first year starters won't be good? You can't have it both ways.

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Not sure what this has to do with your first two quotes I posted. But, to answer your question I don't. But I am not on here proclaiming Miami's defense to be great. I am also not proclaiming they won't be. I just posted a Miami article that states what has happened to Miami's Dline since last season.

As far as both ways, I don't see the correlation you are implying. Greedy and Devin both started their first games in their second seasons. Alexander could turn out to be a decent CB. According to the author of the article on Miami "The DL was devastated by graduation and early departure".

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Same thing with the LSU offense that you like to pump up so much

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I do? I am optimistic with the new additions - Giles and Burrow - but have made NO CLAIMS as to how good the offense will be. Have not even tried to guestimate how good it could be.

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That entire offense was gutted, not just one position group and they lost 3 coaches

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Well I'll be damned. Was it the news on the Miami Dline that triggered this amazing ground-breaking enlightenment?

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So, I was trying to be nice about the question without flat out telling you were being hypocritical again

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“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.” Inigo Montoya

Either that or your reading comprehension or interpretation skills prohibit you from realizing that I am not being a hypocrite.

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talking down to people and being a dick while you were doing it

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Like I will do to you if you keep accusing me of saying things I have not said. You are accusing me of being a hypocrite in this thread like the one in the past. I asked for proof and you failed to deliver after posting six or seven quotes of mine from another thread. You need to get a dictionary and educate yourself.

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I would prefer the cordial discussion, but we can do it the other way if you must.

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If I accuse you of stuff you didn't do in every thread you post in I would not expect you to be cordial. The fact that you expect me to be just shows how detached from reality you really are.

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you submitting post after post for months on end about how dynamic the LSU offense was going to be last year under Canada.

You remember those posts, don't you Ree?

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I remember posting that Canada was the only offensive Broyles award candidate in 2016, that his Pitt team beat the National champions, that his offense threw to the tackles on more than one occasion and I may have posted stats from his prior offenses.

But I do not remember making statements about how dynamic the LSU offense was going to be. You want to post some of my comments where I stated LSU's offense was going to be so great to refresh my memory?

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The fact that you try to argue semantics is pretty telling though.

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You wouldn't know a semantic if it punched you in the nose.

The poster I was replying to said that the new CB Alexander was not a good player because he had not started in his career at Stanford.

My post was to point out that Greedy, Devin and DJ also did not start in their first games or even seasons at LSU. To point out that by his reasoning that those three are not good players either.

The fact that you cannot understand this simple response to his post is pretty telling.

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I expect to see a top 5 D open against Miami and like I said - this one point should be enough to win the game - a passing game with good balance with a rushing attack gives LSU a 17 point win.

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This is NOT an offense that can win in A 17 point blow out... You are acting like we are playing A BYU team to open season.....