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re: Reasons why LSU beats Miami
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:09 pm to TigerCliff777
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:09 pm to TigerCliff777
Y’all are sadly mistaken about Miami, did we lose some dlineman? Yes but our best dlineman and projected first round pick at de is back in joe Jackson who is 6’5 260 and a freak on the edge. Demetrius Jackson was another starter on the dline who led the team in tfls and sacks before his season ending injury when we played va tech. Behind them we have a sophomore in Jon Garvin who bear 1st round draft pick mike mcglinchey several times badly vs Notre Dame as a freshman and was a monster in high school putting up 98 tackles 28 sacks 58 tfls as a senior. Junior 6’6 250 Scott patchan as well as a true freshman who enrolled early that 6’7 250 that has been a monster in spring ball. At dt Gerald Willis played with Miami in 2016 and was productive when healthy and practiced all fall with the Miami last season and is in shape. He has completely turned it around in terms of attitude and everything and has been described as unblockable. We also have depth with guys behind those Des I names And at the other dt spot opposite of Willis we have 2 other blue chip guys who played a lot last season and also a transfer and the #2 dt in the country last year.
At linebacker we have a top 3 linebacker group in the country. All 3 of these guys have started since they were true freshman and this is now their junior season. Quarterman is one of the best mlb in the country and Pinckney is one of the better outside linebackers.
At db
Miami has a top 3 safety in the country in Jaquan Johnson
- top 3 cb in Michael Jackson
And great depth at db in general
Miami has 4-5 guys on defense alone that will go in the first 2 rounds of next years draft
Now on to the offense
Malik rosier with all his faults is still very productive and can make throws when he’s on. He had 31 total touchdowns last season with 14 turnovers 3200 yard passing and 480 yards rushing
At rb
We have Travis homer who only started the last 8 games of the season and finished with 966 yards rushing 5.9 ypc 8 tds 217 receiving yards and a touchdown after our star running back went down
Our depth chart at running back is elite
4 Star Travis homer
4 star deejay Dallas
5 star Lorenzo Lingard
4 star Camron Davis
3star(once top in the country before injuries derailed him) Robert burns
At tight end
Just signed the best te class in the country in the #1 te Brevin Jordan who is already impressing and should start
- the other tight end is a physical freak in will Mallory who is 6’5 230 and just ran a 100m at 10.99 as a tight end..... that’s freakish
Receiver
Arguably Miami’s most talented position on the roster
1. 4 star Ahmmon richards 6’2 190 4.40 speed (freshman all American)
2. 4star Mark pope 6’1 180 10.53 in 100m
3. 4star Jeff Thomas(y’all remember him at the Under Armour game) 5’10 185 4.37
4. 4 star Brian hightower 6’3 200
5. 4 star mike Harley 5’10 180 4.38
6. 3 star Lawrence Cager 6’5 220
7. 4 star Marquez Ezzard 6’2 200
So yes Miami has weapons and talent for days on offense too.
Miami this year is filled with NFL talent on both sides of the ball period. Yes LSU is talented on the defense but that doesn’t mean plays won’t be made.
Greedy vs ahmmon will be interesting considering how talented both of them are but who does LSU has to cover the rest of the guys with all of that speed? I know You have grant Delpit, is he still hurt at safety? Kary Vincent and the guy y’all just signed this last recruiting class I believe Joseph?
Then you factor in a loaded rb group
Let’s be real Miami’s offense is also extremely talented and go against an elite group on defense in practice everyday filled with nfl talent. They will be more than prepared
Personally, I think It’s going to be a good game reguardless and can’t wait to see how things unfold. Miami’s main issue is the oline( which is okay but could be better) and our qb playing with more consistency if not we have other more talented options at qb. He just has the most experience
At linebacker we have a top 3 linebacker group in the country. All 3 of these guys have started since they were true freshman and this is now their junior season. Quarterman is one of the best mlb in the country and Pinckney is one of the better outside linebackers.
At db
Miami has a top 3 safety in the country in Jaquan Johnson
- top 3 cb in Michael Jackson
And great depth at db in general
Miami has 4-5 guys on defense alone that will go in the first 2 rounds of next years draft
Now on to the offense
Malik rosier with all his faults is still very productive and can make throws when he’s on. He had 31 total touchdowns last season with 14 turnovers 3200 yard passing and 480 yards rushing
At rb
We have Travis homer who only started the last 8 games of the season and finished with 966 yards rushing 5.9 ypc 8 tds 217 receiving yards and a touchdown after our star running back went down
Our depth chart at running back is elite
4 Star Travis homer
4 star deejay Dallas
5 star Lorenzo Lingard
4 star Camron Davis
3star(once top in the country before injuries derailed him) Robert burns
At tight end
Just signed the best te class in the country in the #1 te Brevin Jordan who is already impressing and should start
- the other tight end is a physical freak in will Mallory who is 6’5 230 and just ran a 100m at 10.99 as a tight end..... that’s freakish
Receiver
Arguably Miami’s most talented position on the roster
1. 4 star Ahmmon richards 6’2 190 4.40 speed (freshman all American)
2. 4star Mark pope 6’1 180 10.53 in 100m
3. 4star Jeff Thomas(y’all remember him at the Under Armour game) 5’10 185 4.37
4. 4 star Brian hightower 6’3 200
5. 4 star mike Harley 5’10 180 4.38
6. 3 star Lawrence Cager 6’5 220
7. 4 star Marquez Ezzard 6’2 200
So yes Miami has weapons and talent for days on offense too.
Miami this year is filled with NFL talent on both sides of the ball period. Yes LSU is talented on the defense but that doesn’t mean plays won’t be made.
Greedy vs ahmmon will be interesting considering how talented both of them are but who does LSU has to cover the rest of the guys with all of that speed? I know You have grant Delpit, is he still hurt at safety? Kary Vincent and the guy y’all just signed this last recruiting class I believe Joseph?
Then you factor in a loaded rb group
Let’s be real Miami’s offense is also extremely talented and go against an elite group on defense in practice everyday filled with nfl talent. They will be more than prepared
Personally, I think It’s going to be a good game reguardless and can’t wait to see how things unfold. Miami’s main issue is the oline( which is okay but could be better) and our qb playing with more consistency if not we have other more talented options at qb. He just has the most experience
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 1:52 pm
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Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:30 pm to TigerLunatik
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EXACTLY! If you didn't think they were good players you wouldn't be using them as examples that players can be good in their first season starting.
frick off a-hole. You must be a child out of school for the summer.
There are thousands of college players I could have used to counter his point. I used 3 LSU players hoping he would know who they are and realize that his saying Alexander was not a good player for the one stupid reason he gave was wrong. And that his stupid reasoning could be applied to the majority of college football players past, present and future including college and NFL hall of famers.
If you don't understand the idea behind and/or purpose of my post and only want to make adolescent arguments about word usage or non usage while implying ridiculous shite, do yourself a favor and go read a book or something.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:44 pm to Tiger Ree
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You want to post some of my comments where I stated LSU's offense was going to be so great to refresh my memory?
I'm not your gopher Ree. You have plenty of past posts praising Canada and claiming his offense would blow the doors off of anything Miles and Cameron ever fielded. If you want to see them, look 'em up yourself.
And in my opinion, being positive is fine and dandy. But you seem to want to throw a fit whenever somebody doesn't agree with your rosey outlook.
And as far as refreshing your memory, it sounds like you have the memory of a hamster.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:45 pm to Tiger Ree
Sorry if you thought I was being an a-hole. That honestly wasn't my intention.
Is this a bad time to ask if LSU can have players that are good in their first year starting, doesn't it stand to reason that Miami can do the same on their defensive line? That was my original question that I asked nicely.
Is this a bad time to ask if LSU can have players that are good in their first year starting, doesn't it stand to reason that Miami can do the same on their defensive line? That was my original question that I asked nicely.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:46 pm to Brodiecane
Do you not feel the three game slide to end the year was lack of talent and depth catching up with you?
Do you not agree that the first two months of your season last year were against awful competition?
I’m a huge fan of Richt and you should be very excited about the direction of the program, but coming here and listing off the players on your roster isn’t going to impress LSU fans that frankly have recruited far better than Miami over the past four years. Not debatable.
It should be a good competitive game no doubt. Your staff will absolutely have your guys ready.
If our staff has ours ready, granted a pretty big if, LSU should win. That’s really all there is to it
Do you not agree that the first two months of your season last year were against awful competition?
I’m a huge fan of Richt and you should be very excited about the direction of the program, but coming here and listing off the players on your roster isn’t going to impress LSU fans that frankly have recruited far better than Miami over the past four years. Not debatable.
It should be a good competitive game no doubt. Your staff will absolutely have your guys ready.
If our staff has ours ready, granted a pretty big if, LSU should win. That’s really all there is to it
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Voodoo
It was Donte Jackson going full potato
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:55 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Miami lost to pitt by 10 and Wisconsin by 12.
If you go back and look at the game you will see how bad the QB played vs pitt. He couldn’t hit a target at all and was just completely off that day. Not to mention we were missing our 3 best offensive players in the last 3 games so that is a big part of the reason of the lack of production on offense. In addition to that remember when the hurricane hit in September? Miami played something crazy like 10 straight games without a bye week and it started to show
It doesn’t matter if you have recruited better than Miami in the last 4 years, rankings go out the window and production eventually have to matter. Fact is Miami has multiple players on the roster who will be top draft picks in the next year alone (LSU has what Devin white and greedy and who else?
If you go back and look at the game you will see how bad the QB played vs pitt. He couldn’t hit a target at all and was just completely off that day. Not to mention we were missing our 3 best offensive players in the last 3 games so that is a big part of the reason of the lack of production on offense. In addition to that remember when the hurricane hit in September? Miami played something crazy like 10 straight games without a bye week and it started to show
It doesn’t matter if you have recruited better than Miami in the last 4 years, rankings go out the window and production eventually have to matter. Fact is Miami has multiple players on the roster who will be top draft picks in the next year alone (LSU has what Devin white and greedy and who else?
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 1:58 pm to Brodiecane
So, it's not just LSU fans that pick and choose situations and make excuses?
I'm just giving you shite. I think it's gonna be a good game.
I'm just giving you shite. I think it's gonna be a good game.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:00 pm to earl keese
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I'm not your gopher Ree.
What you really would have said if being honest - "I looked like crazy and couldn't find anything, but I am not going to admit I was wrong".
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claiming his offense would blow the doors off of anything Miles and Cameron ever fielded
And I could make up random lies and say you have said things in the past that you haven't. According to the lunatic idiot I can say that I have never used the term "blow the doors off" on this board and the conversation would be over.
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If you want to see them, look 'em up yourself.
If I was claiming that you or I had said something and felt the need to prove it I would.
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And in my opinion, being positive is fine and dandy. But you seem to want to throw a fit whenever somebody doesn't agree with your rosey outlook.
I don't mind when people disagree with me. I know that my opinions are just that and there is no guarantee of anything in this life. Really stupid people do tend to get on my nerves and I may react differently to them.
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And as far as refreshing your memory, it sounds like you have the memory of a hamster.
I'm not claiming that I don't. I think it is weird that you claim you remember what I typed on this board before last season. I don't remember everything I typed and I seriously doubt I could remember one thing anyone else had said - mostly because I don't care or give a lot of credence to people on this board.
I'm not saying it is a bad thing and really appreciate your caring and the affirmation given to my opinions since you remember them for a year or more.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:04 pm to Brodiecane
Pitt was terrible and Wisconsin was a good team but a de facto home game. That was also after a long layoff to recover from the hurricane fatigue.
We certainly understand that btw. 05 was a brutal stretch for us.
But Pitt is Pitt. No amount of fatigue or missing players justifies that, same with any LSU fans that try to write off the MSU, Syracuse, or Troy games for us. It’s excuses and bullshite. Elite teams don’t lose those games.
Again, Miami is headed in a very exciting direction, but you came here listing off your roster like it was supposed to impress us. I won’t waste my time listing ours, but it is better than yours. Trust me.
Now, our coaching staff? That is the question.
We certainly understand that btw. 05 was a brutal stretch for us.
But Pitt is Pitt. No amount of fatigue or missing players justifies that, same with any LSU fans that try to write off the MSU, Syracuse, or Troy games for us. It’s excuses and bullshite. Elite teams don’t lose those games.
Again, Miami is headed in a very exciting direction, but you came here listing off your roster like it was supposed to impress us. I won’t waste my time listing ours, but it is better than yours. Trust me.
Now, our coaching staff? That is the question.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:07 pm to Brodiecane
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It doesn’t matter if you have recruited better than Miami in the last 4 years, rankings go out the window and production eventually have to matter.
You are the one that came here and listed out your whole depth chart and their rankings and measurables like you’re writing a preview for Athlon.
I’m just saying if one were so inclined to do that for ours, which I am definitely not, it would be more impressive.
Both teams obviously have to do it on the field.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:08 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I guess, you are right about that. But y’all coming on here talking like Miami ain’t talented which is certainly far from the truth. It should be a tough game for both teams.
I know LSU has recruited very well on the offensive side of the ball at receiver in particular but they will be going against some talented dbs. In addition to that I just don’t see how people are writing Miami’s offense off(that has proven playmakers) going against a really talented LSU defense but yet gloating about an offense that has way more questions and unknowns than Miami’s offense and is going against a really talented Miami defense. Come on man lol
I know LSU has recruited very well on the offensive side of the ball at receiver in particular but they will be going against some talented dbs. In addition to that I just don’t see how people are writing Miami’s offense off(that has proven playmakers) going against a really talented LSU defense but yet gloating about an offense that has way more questions and unknowns than Miami’s offense and is going against a really talented Miami defense. Come on man lol
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:09 pm to Brodiecane
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Fact is Miami has multiple players on the roster who will be top draft picks in the next year alone (LSU has what Devin white and greedy and who else?
How old are you?
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:12 pm to Brodiecane
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guess, you are right about that. But y’all coming on here talking like Miami ain’t talented which is certainly far from the truth. It should be a tough game for both teams.
I certainly haven’t done that. I’ve said over and over that it will be a good game and coaching will decide it. If anything most of our fans are writing this off as a loss or a huge upset if we pull it off.
I do think we have a deeper roster, and should win if we are prepared.
I also think Miami is ranked at 10 or so mostly based on your brand and the excitement around the program.
If it wasn’t for your cake walk of a schedule I’d think you’d be ranked more closely to where we are. But you are expected to win 10 games because of the very weak schedule so you are getting a boost there.
I certainly expect a good game and a good test for our new QB and OC against your very solid D
But if you think White and Greedy are the only elite players on our defense your offense needs to worry about, well, I think you may be set up for a surprise
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:20 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:tiger ree exact quote on Canada:
looked like crazy and couldn't find anything, but I am not going to admit I was wrong".
(Last year was his first year at Pitt. He was the only offensive Broyles award candidate. He played in a conference that included teams like Florida State, Clemson, Miami, Louisville, etc and still was able to accomplish what he did.
Even if he doesn't do as well at LSU as he did at Pitt, chances are it will still be a HELL of a lot better than anything LSU has seen in a while.)
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:20 pm to Brodiecane
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Miami lost to pitt by 10
Pitt added Miami to its long list of juggernauts it conquered last season.
1) 1-AA Youngstown State in OT
2) Rice
3) Duke
4) Virginia
That's it. I double checked.
Richt calls plays for Miami and had 232 total yards in a loss to a 5-7 Pitt team. But he bounced back the next week with 214 total yards in a 38-3 loss to Clemson.
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If you go back and look at the game you will see how bad the QB played vs pitt
Isn't this the guy who will be your starter this year?
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In addition to that remember when the hurricane hit in September?
Hurricane? What's that? Louisiana has never had a hurricane or had to change the schedule, play 11 straight games and play home games on the road before. Don't know anything about that and have never seen LSU or fans cry about it on other team's message boards.
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LSU has what Devin white and greedy and who else?
Just my opinion but I don't expect DL Rashard Lawrence to be back next year, there is concern DL Breiden Fehoko and DL Ed Alexander may not return along with the new QB Joe Burrow. I don't know how high any of them would project in the NFL draft but I suspect that at least Rashard Lawrence would be pretty high.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:22 pm to Tiger Ree
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According to the lunatic idiot I can say that I have never used the term "blow the doors off" on this board and the conversation would be over.
So, am I misunderstanding or are you still saying that you didn't say in one post that players can be good in there first year starting, but then say that the Miami defense will not be good because the defensive line got gutted meaning they will have first year starters? Both of those posts are in this thread, so you can't use that this time either.
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:25 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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The one clear advantage they may have had would have been QB but with Burrow on board it actually makes Rozier look much more pedestrian, which is really what he is.
How can anyone make comments like this? Reading it...that's just stupid. There's optimism and then you have blind optimism. You are blind. Can Burrow turn out great? Absolutely. The guy has proven absolutely nothing to this point for you to be making a statement like this.
No wonder QBs at LSU end up as headcases with insane expectations like this before they even step on the field. This guy is a god already. That's how depression starts from expectations when they don't live up to it.
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Voodoo
And look let’s be clear, I’ve never hated LSU even after that peach bowl beat down lol. Good luck the rest of the way after our game of course
- one final thing, why did LSU get rid of Matt Canada? He was a great offensive coordinator...
- one final thing, why did LSU get rid of Matt Canada? He was a great offensive coordinator...
This post was edited on 6/22/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 2:36 pm to Tiger Ree
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What you really would have said if being honest
After the way the Canada hire blew up in o's face, and after the way you spent months on end here on the rant bragging about the outstanding hire o made, I don't blame you for trying to attempting to put as much distance as you possibly can between you and those posts. But you did go on and on about how explosive LSU's offense would be under Canada.
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I can say that I never used the term "blow the doors off"
I'll give ya that one. You didn't use that term exactly, but you did spend some time belittling the LSU offense under Miles and claiming that it would be a different story under o.
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I don't mind when people disagree with me.
You can go to hell for lying the same as stealing Ree. You constantly get mad and attack posters who disagree with you. As a matter of fact, the first post between you and I was last summer in a thread where people where arguing with you about o not having any experience as a coordinator. And you kept saying that it wasn't a big deal because LSU would thrown a ton of cash at whoever was on their radar and that person would accept the offer. I responded to one of your posts and started out by stating that I wasn't trying to start a fight with you, but not everyone is going to follow the money. You responded back, calling me names, saying there wasn't a coach in college football that would turn down more money. I used Lane Kiffin turning down o to go to FAU as an example and you responded back ranting like a madman again.
That, and you being one of those posters that defend o to the death and place all the blame for things that have gone south under o's watch on other people, like the Canada hire that went bad, make you and your posts pretty easy to remember.
At least for people who have a halfway decent memory. Probably not for people like you who have the memory of a hamster though.
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