re: Realism for LSU Fans with McMahon and Program

It’s not a slight and I was worried it would come off that way. I don’t think you need to be an elite recruiter to win if you’re smart about it and know what you’re looking for. Wisconsin doesn’t have a top 100 recruit on their roster but they still win a lot and I’d prefer good college basketball players who’ll be here for 3-4 years over elite recruits who aren’t even around long enough to learn the game because it’s the older teams who are winning in March right now.

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You’re such a lying little weasel, what I said was that if we fired Wade I’d love to have Paul Mills.

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Nope

You posted on March 8th in typical dogmatic fashion

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“If Woody really does want “his guy” his guy better be Paul Mills. If it’s not he’ll have made a huge mistake.”

Sorry dude but you fail. And when you get cornered, you get defensive and start calling people names. It’s a message board. You need to calm your shite.

And how does this prove I’ve argued with Wade being fired? This post is from March 8th, Wade was fired on the 12th. What you did was take a statement from a conversation and added it to a different one to change the context. You go all the way back to March 8th and skip all my posts talking about the very thing you’re accusing me of doing. Like I said you’re a weasel and you’re not intelligent enough to play gotcha with me.

You said that lsu was making a mistake in getting rid of Wade unless they hired the Oral Roberts coach just days before he was fired . Clear.

Being a fanboy comes with risks. You swung and missed.
But then tried to run from it with subsequent posts once you realized how dumb Wade is. You’re not even a loyal fanboy. So pathetic.

I can at least respect the real fanboys who stay committed to wade.
They have some character.

You’re just a flakey fanboy.

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We'd have to feel like the Cat's arse if that's all we get!

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Everyone, understandably, is fearing "crushing" sanctions. But there is legitimate reason to believe that may not come to pass. At least with respect to LSU.

LSU's case is currently pending in the IARP process. Along with Memphis, Arizona, Kansas and Louisville. The only case decided by the IARP to date is NC State. The IARP found NC State committed five (5) Level I violations; Four (4) Level II violations; Two (2) Level 3 violations.

However, the sanctions with respect to NC State were far from "crushing". There was no postseason ban, and the scholarship limitations were pretty minimal. 2 lost scholarships over two years. The harshest sanctions were for the assistant coach mostly accused of the wrong doing. He received a 6 years show cause penalty.

If that case is any precedent, it very well could be that the IARP feels the current players/coaches should not suffer the consequences of wrongdoing by former players/coaches. That the people who actually commit the violations should be punished most severely. Obviously that is not very favorable for Wade. But it is clear LSU's defense will be that this was all Wade's doing and that he should be punished...not McMahon and his players.

Of all of the teams most directly tied to the FBI investigation, it is notable that Auburn and Arizona self-imposed postseason bans last year. Oklahoma St. unexpectedly received a postseason ban this year. BUT, that was issued by the NCAA...not the IARP. Arizona's case had yet to be decided when the NC State ruling came down and their self-imposed postseason ban was implemented prior to the NC State ruling. I bet if they had the NC State ruling before last season Arizona never bans itself from postseason.

This COULD be a situation where the IARP is more fair and reasonable to the school than the NCAA would be...while absolutely devastating the coach.

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Woodward has now allowed the NCAA to destroy us

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No.

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Y’all can say Wade messed up and caused this

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Because he did.

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but woodward signed off on this death sentence. Keeping Wade around would have the same, possible less impact.

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Good grief no.

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They came here for him

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So what?

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Woodward has set our new coach up for failure

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No.

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This COULD be a situation where the IARP is more fair and reasonable to the school than the NCAA would be...while absolutely devastating the coach.

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Yeah, I think there's reason for optimism that LSU doesn't get extremely harsh sanctions.

The trend in all the recent scandals seems to be going as hard as possible after the coaches.

That some people are actually floating the idea that it would be better to keep Wade + get penalties + ride out an inevitable 5-10 year show cause is crazy.

As an AD, I believe the show cause means meeting with investigators every few months to provide convincing proof that your coach/program is staying clean. The burden is on you to prove compliance not on them to prove otherwise. Do you really have confidence doing that with Wade, who you think has been lying to you from day 1?

That's even if you believe Wade would somehow have more success than a McMahon over that 5-10 year period all while having to keep squeaky clean under intense scrutiny and working with recruiting sanctions?

Also questionable to say the AD didn't support Wade when a lot of schools would have cut loose when the entire phone tap thing came out just to get out in front of it and keep from being the sports tabloid headline cheaters for years.

In fact, LSU basketball's main exposure now is precisely that it did stand by Wade for over 2 years and has to convince investigators that Wade continued lying to the AD during that period and there was no larger coverup.

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Realism for LSU Fans

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Your dishonesty is only matched by your hypocrisy. I’m glad you brought up that old thread because I said something about you that was dead on. You’re nothing, your talking points are easily debunked, you can’t have a substantive discussion because you’re ignorant and your personal attacks are all lies. You’re a zero

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You are not happy about the old thread because it exposes you . You were all about wade first and foremost and now you’re crawfishing. Now, Rather than just admit your enthusiasm for wade, you cower and try to reinvent.

It was either wade or Oral roberts for you. It’s forever on the internet for all to see.

Then When you get cornered you get personal. You hide behind your keyboard and call people names. I guess that makes you feel more manly supposing you’re actually male. You’ve got something wrong with you inside and the internet helps you to soothe whatever it is. Have fun with that.

I really don’t give a crap what you think of me.

Again you’re lying and being a total hypocrite. You open up with personal attacks and false accusations with everyone but god forbid someone call you on your behavior, that’s “personal” when you get a taste of your own medicine. And no it wasn’t Paul Mills or Wade, if McMahon wasn’t your first choice, which he wasn’t, you’re no different than me in that opinion. You’re taking a hypothetical conversation and using it to replace what was actually said in a different conversation about a different topic. Your time stamp exposes your lie.