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re: QQ…. Is it that big of a deal to get a top 5 recruiting class if you have the Portal?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:50 pm to FreeState
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:50 pm to FreeState
You’re always going to have an element of it. Kids are going to leave every year. Fill their spot with a transfer if needed. I don’t think you’re wrong, but then again you always will need it for short to intermediate gaps. Won’t always find a 5 star like Perkins who can play right away
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:50 pm to jafari rastaman
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30 guys from the portal that are immediate high impact players.
There are not 30 immediate high impact players in the entire portal, much less are we signing all of them.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:52 pm to LSU12223
quote:its turning out the be the opposite, right? Portal guys cant leave as easily as recruited players.
you have established players already in the program
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:53 pm to GeorgeWest
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The last 3 NC's (Bama, UGA, UGA) amassed their talented squads primarily through top 3 HS recruiting.
Whole different game now that don’t have to sit out a year after transferring thus those first 2 teams you listed are irrelevant for today’s rules
Georgia simply had more talent across the board than everyone else this year
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:54 pm to 4TheLoveLSU
I want top 5 in both 
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:08 pm to LSU12223
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Tbh recruiting rankings are bullshite anyway in my opinion.
Maybe. But only top recruiting teams have won the championship. So maybe there is a little something it. I mean if you are talking the difference between being the number 1 recruiting class vs the number 5 class, yeah the difference is subjective and negligible. But the difference between a top 5 class and a 20th to 25th rated class is significant.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:15 pm to 4TheLoveLSU
You need great players to win championships, however you can get them, just get them.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:29 pm to 4TheLoveLSU
There is an overall ranking which is a combination of HS Recruits and Portal Recruits. It is more accurate than a single list of either.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:48 pm to tigerskin
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Whole different game now that don’t have to sit out a year after transferring thus those first 2 teams you listed are irrelevant for today’s rules
Players have been able to transfer without sitting out a year since 2020.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:02 pm to 4TheLoveLSU
this makes me think about the quote from Bobby Bowden when he said something about it's not the ones you don't get that hurt you, but the one's you do get and don't pan out.
the way I see this is you still need to recruit HS at highest levels, but the portal allows you to correct on some of those that don't pan out. They can leave and you can upgrade. Of course if you don't miss on the ones you get, then you don't need the portal.
the way I see this is you still need to recruit HS at highest levels, but the portal allows you to correct on some of those that don't pan out. They can leave and you can upgrade. Of course if you don't miss on the ones you get, then you don't need the portal.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:27 pm to LSU12223
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Tbh recruiting rankings are bullshite anyway in my opinion.
Well except for the fact that the teams competing for and winning championships every year are the teams that are consistently at the top of recruiting rankings.
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Tamu had the number one class didn’t make a bowl game
It was one class. They were all freshman. Everyone knew a bunch of those guys took a paycheck and would leave after a year. But if that class had stayed together, they would have been competing for a championship at some point.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:06 am to GeorgeWest
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The last 3 NC's (Bama, UGA, UGA) amassed their talented squads primarily through top 3 HS recruiting.
But playoff teams have filled needs through transfers over the years
LSU in 19 (Burrow)
OU in 19 (Hurts)
OU in 17 (Mayfield)
OSU in 20 (Fields)
Those are just off the top of my head
You obviously want to be top 5 in HS recruiting but utilizing the portal to supplement key positions or areas of need has proven to be very beneficial
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:48 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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It seems it’s becoming an even bigger deal to have a pocket full of cash to buy good players
Will Wade too soon
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:10 am to 4TheLoveLSU
I think the recruiting services are still trying to figure out how to accurately evaluate transfer players. So until those wrinkles are ironed out, it's hard to judge based on pure numbers. Including the transfer portal, I'd put LSU's incoming class up against any school in the country.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:15 am to 4TheLoveLSU
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QQ…. Is it that big of a deal to get a top 5 recruiting class if you have the Portal?
You still need a foundation of freshman coming in every year so you can develop depth. The portal is great for topping off a position but having to rely on it is a dangerous game.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:35 am to 4TheLoveLSU
yes
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:41 am to 4TheLoveLSU
He is not the only one rocking the portal but you still have to build through the high school ranks. I do like that he got a few younger pieces in the portal that he can build with but it still needs to be high school players first and then supplement what you need through the portal like Kelly is doing.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:13 am to 4TheLoveLSU
Maybe you'll have the oddball team that finds multiple different makers through the portal and gets to the playoffs that way, but in my opinion the core of a championship team will usually be built off of strong HS recruiting classes.
The transfer portal builds depth and fills in holes, it means the rebuilding period doesn't have to be as long for teams that want to take full advantage of it.
The transfer portal builds depth and fills in holes, it means the rebuilding period doesn't have to be as long for teams that want to take full advantage of it.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:12 am to GeorgeWest
quote:This will change. Assessing, developing and projecting HS kids is too damn risky. Getting 4th and 5th year guys with a body of work will begin to play a larger and larger role.
The last 3 NC's (Bama, UGA, UGA) amassed their talented squads primarily through top 3 HS recruiting.
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