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re: Putting the Orgeron hire in perspective

Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63578 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:26 pm to
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You're straight full of shite. You post this fricking horseshite then have the nerve to tell someone else that they're willfully ignorant.


You really have an issue with handling people that have different opinions than you do. And then you have the nerve to talk about reasonableness.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91035 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:29 pm to
frick this is a football ignorant argument. You kustblost any credibility you may have had. Jimbo ans Herman are just starting out taking over a mediocre program and a dumpster fire. Look At jimbeauxs resume. You think O has done that?

And u think O is a beter coach ?
This post was edited on 10/9/18 at 5:30 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20977 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Well, this is stupid. O is Miles's immediate successor.


I think his point is that hiring O did not have to necessarily follow firing Les. Two independent events.

It was time for Les to go. It wasn't time for O to be hired.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 5:33 pm to
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You really have an issue with handling people that have different opinions than you do. And then you have the nerve to talk about reasonableness



I'm as reasonable as it gets until a person starts acting stupid. That's why I generally ignore you.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63578 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:23 pm to
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I'm as reasonable as it gets until a person starts acting stupid.


Sure. Hence you lashing out at completely reasonable statements in this very thread.

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That's why I generally ignore you.


Meh. Says the guy who engages in childish downvoting.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:27 pm to
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It was time for Les to go. It wasn't time for O to be hired.


Exactly and the thrust of the OP. How can a 'top tier' program like LSU have no real plan to replace Miles? None? Or was it purely an economic decision which would have forestalled a top hire. Don't get me wrong, I doubt that Herman would have come to LSU, but Fisher would have.

Not saying we should have hired Fisher, but he is light years ahead of CEO.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:37 pm to
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he is not even worth it.


Fat, no one and nothing on this board is worth that.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:44 pm to
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Does anyone think we hired the best possible HC at the most opportune time?


I do not think that anyone can speak to this with sufficient context. It seems unlikely that a well-prepared administration would have had a fairly lengthy list of potential candidates that would not have had CEO's name on it. Again, why not consider Aranda?

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Or did we blow our chance to get the right guy at the right time and then have to settle for a cheap solution?


Again, we cannot know if LSU blew a chance at the right guy, assuming there was only one such person. It seems clear to me that there were no serious contingencies and LSU got saddled with our current leader. It is not 0's fault that he was hired, it is the responsibility of LSU's so-called 'leadership'. BTW, does anyone on this board know who those people are?

Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:50 pm to
O is not on the hot seat now. We are having an excellent season so far. Credit goes where it is due and right now it is due O.

However, the way in which they did the hire - Herman said no so hire O - shows a lack of a process in the A.D. Other options could have been explored. There was no rush. O stays for now, but Alleva needs to geaux.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:52 pm to
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I've had some issues that could possibly be very bad as far as my survival rate goes. We've had so many miracles for it to come down to this one thing that means everything is absolutely terrifying. We're all praying so hard.


Mr. Coleman, of course I do not know you, but may God give you the strength to get through it.

Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Ogerone is great for LSU


Well, that remains to be seen. I am sure that this board has a huge influence on recruits. Maybe if we all sing "Kumbaya" together, that will bring us the best players possible. One the other hand, what if CEO is not 'great' for LSU and some of us can see that while others cannot? Should we just go along with the herd, bleating that we have 2 top 10 wins? Help me out here.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216453 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:00 pm to
How do you think we do against UGA??????
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21231 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:03 pm to
Let the season play out, then we can judge it. Anything less than 9 wins now will be disappointing. 2019 was always the decider.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:09 pm to
Well, Peej, I knew, knew I tell you, that LSU was going to lose to Auburn last year and this, but I was wrong. I am also on record stating that LSU's Oline was going to get the job done, and that did not happen. Now some of that, I think, had to do with Ensminger going away from what had been successful. All that said, I think LSU will lose-badly.

I hate it. Every year it really bothers me that the program is at best static and after this year could be headed into an abyss. I am disappointed in the lack of pass rush by the defense, but Chaisson's absence was as big as I had feared. The Dline again appears to lack depth for the fourth quarter. They CANNOT let UF march down the field and score a go ahead TD.

I do not see the STAFF making ANY in game adjustments, particularly on offense. I do not understand why the D could not solve the option.

The team is poorly prepared, I do not care what any apologists may say otherwise. LSU is in the best division in CFB and the best conference. If it wants to be elite, it must change its current philosophy.
Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1976 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:17 pm to
Well....they hired him (why is a mystery to many) so we just need to ride the ship until it sinks or get off at the next stop. There not going to clean house until they see clear regression of the football program/revenue, someone outside the administration comes up with a lot of money or take some serious heat from the right people. They have 2 head coaches on the payroll already and a well paid DC. Not saying your point isn't valid...dunno yet but there likely on hold for a while.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216453 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:22 pm to
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LSUStar



I agree..... There are more problems right now than most on here refuse to realize............

Burrow can't be the savior if he is not protected... The offense has ZERO imagination.... The D is on the field to long and don't tackle worth a crap....

UGA will run all over us...IMO.......
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21231 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:28 pm to
No, they will not. Phillips is back and their O-Line is beat up.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:28 pm to
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Meh. Says the guy who engages in childish downvoting


Unfortunately I don't have multiple downvotes for people like you. If you don't like go cry to chicken. Maybe he'll get rid of it for you.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63578 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:47 pm to
Downvote away. It doesn’t affect me. I just think it’s childish and silly for a grown man to relish doing it so openly.

I’m not sure why you let our interactions here affect you so personally. You don’t know me.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 7:49 pm to
“His failure to find work”

That’s more related to him being 64 years old and getting a check from LSU for $133,000 a month more than anything else.

“Miles HAD TO GO”

At what cost to LSU and exactly what has been the LSU gain in his having to go?
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