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re: Posters saying LSU doesn't DESERVE to be in a regional.....

Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6175 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Having watched this team all season, it seems abundantly clear to me that they are not capable of a deep post season run. They have not shown anywhere near the consistency on offense or defense to give me any confidence in them being able to win a regional, let alone be competitive in Omaha.

You might be right but truly have no idea. I bet you havent watched many college baseball teams outside of the SEC. What happened at the beginning of the year basically means nothing at this point, even though not good, is a much different team. If LSU gets into a NON SEC regional they could absolutely win.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10900 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:21 pm to
LSU sucks by SEC standards, but it's ridiculous to say this team isn't one of the top 64 in the country.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67082 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:23 pm to
Only 8 teams can make it to Omaha. LSU was not even the 8th best team in their own conference this year. If their only chance is to not have to play members of their own conference along the way and hope that the SEC really is that much better than all the other teams (besides Oral Roberts), then that’s a pretty worn out basket to place all your eggs in.

Like I said, I hope I’m wrong, that LSU gets in and goes on a run, but I have seen nothing that gives me confidence to expect that to happen. LSU needs to prove to me that they can win by, you know, winning. Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe. I’m just not that blessed when it comes to this team.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3330 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Anyone who losses to f'ing ORU by 3 td's doesn't even deserve participation trophies.


Anyone who defines a baseball season by one game is pretty ignorant. Making a regional gives you a chance to compete and go as far as possible in the postseason. It doesn’t give you a participation trophy.
Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:25 pm to
Crappy team, crappy coach. Get over it!!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:29 pm to
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LSU sucks by SEC standards, but it's ridiculous to say this team isn't one of the top 64 in the country.
then let's just put all 14 SEC teams in the tourney. That's not really the way tournament bids work. Otherwise, the "strong" conferences would get all their teams in.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6175 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:29 pm to
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LSU was not even the 8th best team in their own conference this year.

actually they were.

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LSU needs to prove to me that they can win by, you know, winning. Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe. I’m just not that blessed when it comes to this team.

LSU has won as many games as any other team being considered over them. Dont get the question twisted. This is not about the chance of LSU winning the whole tournament but merely does LSU deserve to participate in the tournament. You cant just be upset with the team because they didn't meet your standards so they dont deserve to play. Its about whether they meet the criteria or not. Based on all the data we have, they do.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Only 8 teams can make it to Omaha. LSU was not even the 8th best team in their own conference this year. If their only chance is to not have to play members of their own conference along the way and hope that the SEC really is that much better than all the other teams (besides Oral Roberts), then that’s a pretty worn out basket to place all your eggs in.

Auburn finished 5th in the West (T8th in the SEC) in 2019 with a 14-16 SEC record, losing 6 of their 10 SEC series, and made it to the CWS. That's why the tournament is played. Sounds like some people would rather just pick the best 16 teams at the end of the year and eliminate the rest of the tournament the way some of y'all post.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6175 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Auburn finished 5th in the West (T8th in the SEC) in 2019 with a 14-16 SEC record, losing 6 of their 10 SEC series, and made it to the CWS. That's why the tournament is played. Sounds like some people would rather just pick the best 16 teams at the end of the year and eliminate the rest of the tournament the way some of y'all post.



Hell some think we should have just quit the season after getting shellacked by Oral Roberts.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:34 pm to
I think we absolutely deserve to be on the bubble. It’s all relative to your peers and this year, we are in the mix thanks to help from others and us winning the 4 easiest conference series we had.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:34 pm to
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plays in by far the toughest conference in the country,


By that measure, LSU football should have been in the CFP in 2018 as well. But that's not how it works.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3330 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:36 pm to
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By that measure, LSU football should have been in the CFP in 2018 as well. But that's not how it works.


Comparisons of baseball to football are not how it works either.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:37 pm to
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then let's just put all 14 SEC teams in the tourney


They did that already. How did LSU fare?
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10900 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:37 pm to
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then let's just put all 14 SEC teams in the tourney. That's not really the way tournament bids work. Otherwise, the "strong" conferences would get all their teams in.
It's a NATIONAL tournament. Not an SEC tournament. Don't be a dumbass. I know exactly how tournament bids work. That's why LSU is still in the conversation. DUH...
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67082 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:38 pm to
The tournament used to only have 48 teams back in the 90’s when LSU was dominant.

I’m not saying that they deserve it or don’t. In my opinion, LSU had chance after chance to answer the question so that it would not be in doubt, and they failed. That’s why they’re a bubble team. The only reason they’re on the bubble instead of out is because of their reputation as a dominant program and the reputation of the SEC as a dominant league. LSU has not proven to me that they can compete with the best teams from everywhere because they couldn’t be competitive with the average teams in their own conference.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:39 pm to
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Comparisons of baseball to football are not how it works either.


It's not a comparison of baseball to football, it's the "we're in the toughest conference", therefore blah, blah, blah. The top teams in the toughest conference will make it. The others, well.... We already know the story. It's been that way forever.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:40 pm to
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The tournament used to only have 32 teams back in the 90’s when LSU was dominant.

no, it had 48 teams

Regardless, what point are you trying to make here?
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26159 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Beat an Ole Miss team thats going to host

But didn't sweep. Sat. April 26 will be a day of infamy for LSU baseball: led 9-1 with only FOUR OUTS to go. Only got one out, as Ty Floyd was greeted first pitch in the ninth with a HIGH FLY BALL HOME RUN.

If LSU had prevailed that evening, they would be in the tourney.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3330 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:45 pm to
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It's not a comparison of baseball to football, it's the "we're in the toughest conference"


Which is not a similar argument at all when you compare the two sports. One is competing for a top four playoff spot and has to prove they deserve it in a lot fewer games. Baseball plays three conference games per weekend and has to do enough to qualify for a 64 team tournament.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67082 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:45 pm to
I am saying that they had lots of opportunities to make the tournament with no doubts as to whether they should be in or out. They failed to seize those opportunities for all of the reasons that I doubt their ability to make the most out of a possible tournament bid.

I’m not saying that they shouldn’t go if they are offered. I am saying that it is shameful, and a symptom of a failed season that it is even a question at this point as to whether LSU should or shouldn’t make the tournament. For nearly 30 years they HOSTED a regional EVERY YEAR! The premier program in college baseball should not allow itself to get accustomed to mediocrity. Missing the tournament is evident of a catastrophic failure of expectations. Even not being a 1 seed should be a sign of a disappointing season.
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