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re: Pods and Schedules
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:01 am to Boh
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:01 am to Boh
quote:
Treat it kind of like the NFL and you play the other teams that finished in the same spot as you in their division. i.e. if you win the division you play the 2 other division winners that aren't on the rotating schedule that year.
Actually, kind of like it.
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:12 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:
That makes sense for the 3-4. How does the 1-1 work? Is that permanent rivals
This quote would imply the 1-1 are rotating, but they may change their mind.
quote:
The most likely pod scenario, unless they elect to have permanent opponents outside of pods.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:47 am to TigerMonkey
quote:It's not possible for three teams to go undefeated in this format. There will only be two divisions every season. Only the pods rotate every year.
I do not like the idea and think you run the risk of 3 teams eligible for the sec title game. 3 go undefeated, no one played each other, who gets left out?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:49 am to Laman1978
Screw the pods. LSU is far better off remaining in a two division conference as before.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:52 am to Gremlins Village
quote:
(I hate the term pods). I would rather use the North, South, East, West term instead of pods.
haha...i agree 100%.
But I like the suggestion in the OP for schedules.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:54 am to Gremlins Village
What about LSU Ole Miss, Auburn Georgia, etc. Auburn/Georgia is the oldest rivary in the SEC. Why do we care about preserving OU/TX and TX/TAM if at the same time rivalries like the ones above are going to be just games that are now played every so many years.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:58 am to Jabontik
quote:
Confusing as hell
Just give me SEC west with UT and chokelahoma in it and Ill be good
Me no smart. Make easy for me. Even if bad.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:58 am to TigerMonkey
quote:
I do not like the idea and think you run the risk of 3 teams eligible for the sec title game. 3 go undefeated, no one played each other, who gets left out?
I like moving teams around and keeping west vs east. Mizzou, OU, and Texas to the west, Alabama and AU to the east.
Another thing is LSU is far better off with the old east and west divisions. As LSU will instantly assume the position of top dog in the West when Alabama is moved to the SEC East. Hence, LSU will become the presumptive winner of the SEC West every season. Just like UGA was the presumptive winner of the SEC East every season before the SEC expansion.
It would be stupid for LSU to lose that advantage to go with an idiotic Pod system that has to use silly tie breakers and biased polls to decide who gets to play for the SEC Championship.
As the current East/West divisions also make the most sense geographically and also maintains all the old rivalries.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:02 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
quote:
I think they will move to 11 games. 9 conference games,
If they have to go to only an eleven game schedule, as opposed to the current 12 game schedule, to accommodate pods, then that would be insane.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:05 am to Indiana Tiger
quote:
Got to believe there will be a 4 team playoff.
So in other words, including the additional games of the new expanded playoffs, some SEC teams would play more games than most NFL teams. That's sick!
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:08 am to nicholastiger
quote:
I do think it will be PODS
If it is pods, as opposed to the current 2 division setup, LSU will be sacrificing a major advantage it is inheriting via this SEC expansion.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:14 am to Laman1978
Maybe I'm misinterpreting this but why can't the "1-1" be a permanent opponent, and then play a team that finished in the same spot in a predetermined division (like NFL)? That way say LSU is in a pod with Arky, Ole Miss, and MSU, they can still play Aggy every year?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:16 am to Laman1978
Here's how LSU's schedule might look for a 6-year period, assuming the following divisions:
SEC North
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama
SEC West
Arkansas
Missouri
Texas
Oklahoma
SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
SEC South
Texas A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Also, assuming the following would be the structure of the division groupings:
Seasons 1 and 4: North-West South-East
Seasons 2 and 5: North-East South-West
Seasons 3 and 6: North-South East-West
Season 1
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
South Carolina
@ Tennessee
@ Kentucky
Arkansas
Season 2
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
Oklahoma
@ Florida
Vanderbilt
Season 3
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Kentucky
@ Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
Georgia
@ Missouri
Season 4
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
@ Auburn
Season 5
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
@ Oklahoma
@ South Carolina
Alabama
Season 6
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
@ Tennessee
Oklahoma
SEC North
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama
SEC West
Arkansas
Missouri
Texas
Oklahoma
SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
SEC South
Texas A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Also, assuming the following would be the structure of the division groupings:
Seasons 1 and 4: North-West South-East
Seasons 2 and 5: North-East South-West
Seasons 3 and 6: North-South East-West
Season 1
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
South Carolina
@ Tennessee
@ Kentucky
Arkansas
Season 2
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
Oklahoma
@ Florida
Vanderbilt
Season 3
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Kentucky
@ Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
Georgia
@ Missouri
Season 4
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
@ Auburn
Season 5
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
@ Oklahoma
@ South Carolina
Alabama
Season 6
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
@ Tennessee
Oklahoma
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:24 am to Purple Tiger King
quote:
Got to believe there will be a 4 team playoff.
So in other words, including the additional games of the new expanded playoffs, some SEC teams would play more games than most NFL teams. That's sick!
Read my next post. There won't be a 4 team playoff. My first response is a misreading of the OP.
Also, you are definitely the guy that would transgender himself for the sake of a trophy:
quote:
The most likely pod scenario, unless they elect to have permanent opponents outside of pods...
It would be stupid for LSU to lose that advantage...
LSU will be sacrificing a major advantage
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:34 am to Indiana Tiger
Heck with pods…
Sec west will be
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
A& M
LSU
Missouri
Ole miss
Miss St.
SEC East will be
Bama
AU
Tenn
Kentucky
South Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Vandy
Play all teams in division and two from other division and play 9 conference games with 3 OOC games each… end of year have your normal SECCG and let the chips fall where they may.. this way it will be really exciting to see which school wants to make their resume better by facing a couple tough OOC games.
Sec west will be
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
A& M
LSU
Missouri
Ole miss
Miss St.
SEC East will be
Bama
AU
Tenn
Kentucky
South Carolina
Florida
Georgia
Vandy
Play all teams in division and two from other division and play 9 conference games with 3 OOC games each… end of year have your normal SECCG and let the chips fall where they may.. this way it will be really exciting to see which school wants to make their resume better by facing a couple tough OOC games.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:47 am to rustontiger7
quote:Yep! You got it. Thank you for doing that. I didn't look at all six, but you definitely have the jist of what it's looking like they're leaning towards. It's by far the most fair and equal scheduling format I've seen. Yes, it does away with permanent opponents outside of your division, but you're still playing everyone three times out of every six seasons. 3 home and 3 away every 12 seasons. I like it.
Here's how LSU's schedule might look for a 6-year period, assuming the following divisions:
SEC North
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama
SEC West
Arkansas
Missouri
Texas
Oklahoma
SEC East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
SEC South
Texas A&M
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Also, assuming the following would be the structure of the division groupings:
Seasons 1 and 4: North-West South-East
Seasons 2 and 5: North-East South-West
Seasons 3 and 6: North-South East-West
Season 1
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
South Carolina
@ Tennessee
@ Kentucky
Arkansas
Season 2
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
Oklahoma
@ Florida
Vanderbilt
Season 3
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Kentucky
@ Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
Georgia
@ Missouri
Season 4
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
Florida
@ Georgia
@ South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
@ Auburn
Season 5
Texas A&M
@ Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Missouri
@ Texas
@ Oklahoma
@ South Carolina
Alabama
Season 6
@ Texas A&M
Ole Miss
@ Mississippi State
@ Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Auburn
@ Alabama
@ Tennessee
Oklahoma
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:53 am to Purple Tiger King
quote:I'm not sure what y'all aren't understanding. Under this format there would only be TWO DIVISIONS. They just look different year to year because the pods rotate!!!
If it is pods, as opposed to the current 2 division setup, LSU will be sacrificing a major advantage it is inheriting via this SEC expansion.
Pods A,B,C,D
Season 1 Divisions: A+B & C+D. The winner of AB would play the winner of CD for the SEC Championship.
S2: AC winner plays BD winner.
S3: AD winner plays BC winner.
Understand now?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:33 pm to Laman1978
The question that must be addressed is this: Does the SEC value the AU-UGA, Ala-Tenn, UGA-Fla rivalries OR is it more important for SEC teams to play all other SEC teams multiple times in a 4 year or 6 year period?
To me, it is paramount that each of us plays all teams multiple times in a 4 or 6 year period. With 4-team divisions and no perms outside the pod, teams would play all non-division teams 2 times every 4 years. That's enough to continue AU-UGA rivalry. They do not have to play every year.
To me, it is paramount that each of us plays all teams multiple times in a 4 or 6 year period. With 4-team divisions and no perms outside the pod, teams would play all non-division teams 2 times every 4 years. That's enough to continue AU-UGA rivalry. They do not have to play every year.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 12:40 pm to nicholastiger
How about no cupcake games. F THIS CRAP of playing nw arkansas st and mcneese. Give the fans 12 legitimate games.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:24 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:
The question that must be addressed is this: Does the SEC value the AU-UGA, Ala-Tenn, UGA-Fla rivalries OR is it more important for SEC teams to play all other SEC teams multiple times in a 4 year or 6 year period?
To me, it is paramount that each of us plays all teams multiple times in a 4 or 6 year period. With 4-team divisions and no perms outside the pod, teams would play all non-division teams 2 times every 4 years. That's enough to continue AU-UGA rivalry. They do not have to play every year.
Without cross pod permanent games, this set up will take 5 years to do home and away across the entire league. With a 1 permanent in each of the other 3 pods it will take 6 years. I'm an advocate for a max of 5 years.
Without really looking into it, I'm guessing most of the historic rivalries will be satisfied by the pods. The Alabama teams may be the hardest to satisfy. There is no way a there will be a pod of AL, AU, TN, and GA. Something has to give. Now would be a good time to demonstrate to A&M that the conference doesn't cater to single teams, but...
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