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re: Players opting out shows the difference of character between our generations.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:37 am to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:37 am to Ponchy Tiger
Absolutely correct.
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Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:38 am to GeauxEaux
Expanding the playoff field to the top 8-12 teams instead of 4 cherry picked P5 teams would likely cut down on the opt outs from the elite not in the top 4. Give them something more tangible to play for and they will stay.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:38 am to Ponchy Tiger
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of these same kids will quit and claim it is to avoid risking injury yet they lack the mental discipline to back off the devil's lettuce for just a few month's until the
Anyone who says the devil's lettuce is already out of touch.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:41 am to GeauxEaux
I would still opt out and make millions of dollars.. so would you
Money talks
Money talks
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:44 am to mylsuhat
quote:well, the fans (i.e., taxpayers) pay their scholarships, pay their coaches, fund the facilities they play in, etc.
What is way worse than any player deciding to opt out or transfer is the remote idea that any of those players owe you, the fan, any considerations whatsoever.
So if the players accept the scholarship money, the players actually do owe it to the university, and the fans, to play to the best of their ability.
Now yes, for a potential high draft pick, I can understand the business decision of opting out of a crappy bowl, but that only applies to a very few players.
Another problem is the many, many crappy bowls. In the old days, only 30 teams made it to a bowl, so it was an honor. Now, 84 out of 130 teams go to bowls. Most are garbage.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:45 am to nitwit
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The parents and grandparents of these greedy young adults should be called task!
The parents and Grandparents, some they don't even know, are the problem.
The ones they know will be in line with their hands out.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:56 am to jmarto1
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Tell a running back that has maxed out their draft potential and these manufactured games become an unnecessary risk.
Who labeled the Rose Bowl a manufactured game? Who labeled the Peach Bowl (a NY6 Bowl) a manufacturered game?
If you are fine with players quitting for any bowl game, you should be fine with them quitting before a playoff game. I mean, they got to feed their families, right?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:59 am to tiggerthetooth
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Your school pride about 1 game doesn't feed their families for years.
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tiggerthetooth
Student Athletes is missing in your logic
Education feeds families for years.
For the majority of players education should be the primary reason for playing college football. Even the elite need to know how to manage money and get through life.
The NIL is ok, transfering without sitting out 1 year is a mistake the NCAA has allowed. College credits may not transfer delaying getting a degree.
Lost is the primary reason for college athletics, education.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:00 am to GeauxEaux
Change the circumstances and ask if you'd feel the same.
You work at a reasonably dangerous job. You get offered a new job, paying you triple what you currently earn, bringing you a new level of financial security and the ability to save for your kids' college education.
You can either put in your notice and work for two more weeks, knowing that you risk injury that would negate the new job offer, or, you determine you don't owe your current employer your future. After all, it's just a job. They pay you for your time and expertise. The moment you stop, they stop paying you.
In those terms, which would you choose? For those would answer, "I owe it to the company for having trained me." or "It's only right to provide a two-week notice." do you think once you leave they are going to collapse and fail? Do you really think you matter that much to them? Because if you were that important to them, shouldn't they have been paying you "you're more important to us" money to begin with?
You work at a reasonably dangerous job. You get offered a new job, paying you triple what you currently earn, bringing you a new level of financial security and the ability to save for your kids' college education.
You can either put in your notice and work for two more weeks, knowing that you risk injury that would negate the new job offer, or, you determine you don't owe your current employer your future. After all, it's just a job. They pay you for your time and expertise. The moment you stop, they stop paying you.
In those terms, which would you choose? For those would answer, "I owe it to the company for having trained me." or "It's only right to provide a two-week notice." do you think once you leave they are going to collapse and fail? Do you really think you matter that much to them? Because if you were that important to them, shouldn't they have been paying you "you're more important to us" money to begin with?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:01 am to GeauxEaux
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Players opting out
You don't have to like it but Bowl games outside of the playoffs are now exhibition games for next year's team.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:05 am to PP7 for heisman
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The average NFL salary 50 years ago was $23,000.
The average NFL salary in 2021 is $860,000.
So tired if seeing this argument. This is dumb and childish and you are showing your immaturity.
$23,000 50 years ago is $860,000 in 2021. Its the same. Milk was .10c a gallon. Now its $3.50. its all relative. Sorry for those who cant understand basic economics and inflation
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:07 am to GeauxEaux
That is today’s society in general
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:07 am to GeauxEaux
The 33% downvotes shows the generational differences, for the worst, even amongst the posters on this board. Lou is 100% correct.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:10 am to Ponchy Tiger
I don’t know about ten but I can name one:
Jaylon smith Notre dame. Blows out his knee in the fiesta bowl ‘16 against Ohio state(funny enough I was recovering from acl surgery when it happened).Goes from a top ten pick to 34th pick overall, selected in the second round, and now he’s only in the league bc of depleted covid rosters.
He literally lost millions in rookie deal and never got that second contract that creates insane generational wealth.
Jaylon smith Notre dame. Blows out his knee in the fiesta bowl ‘16 against Ohio state(funny enough I was recovering from acl surgery when it happened).Goes from a top ten pick to 34th pick overall, selected in the second round, and now he’s only in the league bc of depleted covid rosters.
He literally lost millions in rookie deal and never got that second contract that creates insane generational wealth.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:18 am to Shaq4prez
But, it’s not the average player who is opting out. It’s top round guys opting out.
So please compare apples to apples and look at the average top 2 round contracts.
Which LSU guys aren’t playing? Clark and TDP. Clark is a first rounder and TDP is a rb. TDP isn’t a top round guy IMO but he is a rb and they have a tiny shelf life.
So please compare apples to apples and look at the average top 2 round contracts.
Which LSU guys aren’t playing? Clark and TDP. Clark is a first rounder and TDP is a rb. TDP isn’t a top round guy IMO but he is a rb and they have a tiny shelf life.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:20 am to atltiger6487
What if the school is a private university or that boosters pay the coach? 
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:23 am to Shaq4prez
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$23,000 50 years ago is $860,000 in 2021.
No it’s not. quote:
Sorry for those who cant understand basic economics and inflation
You obviously don’t. This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:23 am to GeauxEaux
There is no way Lou Holtz said this.
He may have thought it.
He may have written it.
But if he said it, it would have sounded like “pbbbt, todays apppthletes hfrsbo fun tdhjn urejj pfvjo ylbfee Knute Rockne!!”
He may have thought it.
He may have written it.
But if he said it, it would have sounded like “pbbbt, todays apppthletes hfrsbo fun tdhjn urejj pfvjo ylbfee Knute Rockne!!”
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:26 am to LCTFAN
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For the majority of players education should be the primary reason for playing college football. Even the elite need to know how to manage money and get through life.
Personally I think you should be able to major in football while playing college football if you think that’s what you want to do the rest of your life. Could be classes on money management and life skills and former players can be the professors so now you are actually creating a new line of work for athletes that didn’t make it at the professional level.
How is that different than someone getting a degree in anything else they think they will do the rest of their life? Sometimes people get that degree then end up doing something completely different any way.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:35 am to dos crystal
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Football is on pace for a slow death, nfl ratings are down, college football ratings down, attendance is down. People are choosing not to watch soft, quitting, divas.
Cute narrative, but wrong on all counts:
NFL ratings are up 17% this year
NFL viewership up
College football ratings have held steady. For example, SEC Championship this year was just over 15M viewers. Ten years ago, it got 16M. Not exactly plummeting.
Attendance is a different story and I don’t think tied to “not watching divas” since digital viewing isn’t declining. Ticket costs are up, getting to and parking on campus is a nightmare, TV offerings have gotten better and faster relative to going to games in person.
Simply put, the TV numbers support that fans still watch, they just don’t do it in person because I’m 2021 they no longer have to fight the hassle in order to see their team.
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