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re: Per Rothstein - Matt McMahon to LSU

Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:46 pm to
Decent hire given our NCAA circumstances. Lawdy, I hope the NCAA does NOT try to make an example of LSU and give us 2-3 year postseason ban.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:46 pm to
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The whole key is if he can recruit like Wade.


I wouldn't expect that. But teams can be built in different ways now than just loading up on 5 star HS players. The prevalence of transfers completely changes how teams are built.

Best case scenario: He's able to salvage a few players from the current LSU roster, then dives hard into the transfer portal to produce an Iowa St. type turnaround. 2-22 last season. Lost 11 players. Picked to finish last in the Big 12.....currently preparing to play Miami in the Sweet 16

(Reasonable) worst case: He has a few solid years, but nothing that really moves the needle...ultimately leading to him being fired after 5-6 seasons (like the last two Murray St. HC's who left for power conf. jobs)

Again, he's not someone who I'm overly excited about getting the job. But we don't know what the LSU job currently looks like to the coaching world. It probably would be hard to pull an established HC from a good situation at a power conf to take over at LSU right now.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11715 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:47 pm to
No "big name" coach is walking into this mess right now. Let's clean up the ship and get back to moving again.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34769 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Murray St. is always good. Every one of their coaches since like the early 90s has had some measure of success. I'm not sure what amount of their recent success could be attributed to McMahon, but I'm going to choose to be optimistic. At least he's a young guy and not some retread like Andy Kennedy.
Same kind of thing was said about VCU when we hired Wade

I'll give him a chance definitely could have done worse
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Great hire based on the circumstances.



Agreed
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Same kind of thing was said about VCU when we hired Wade

This is true.
quote:

I'll give him a chance definitely could have done worse


Absolutely true.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6546 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:49 pm to
Pat Forde saying good hire or nah haha. frick that idiot.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17560 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:49 pm to
I support, but I still miss Wade.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:49 pm to
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But you can never know how these mid-major coaches are going to translate to a bigger job,


Yeah like the guy they just fired
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56301 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:50 pm to
As long as he ain’t a dumbass cheater like Wade, he has my support
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9860 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:51 pm to
Someone take him to Phil's and show him the back room, please.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6185 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:51 pm to
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I wouldn't expect that. But teams can be built in different ways now than just loading up on 5 star HS players. The prevalence of transfers completely changes how teams are built.

Best case scenario: He's able to salvage a few players from the current LSU roster, then dives hard into the transfer portal to produce an Iowa St. type turnaround. 2-22 last season. Lost 11 players. Picked to finish last in the Big 12.....currently preparing to play Miami in the Sweet 16

(Reasonable) worst case: He has a few solid years, but nothing that really moves the needle...ultimately leading to him being fired after 5-6 seasons (like the last two Murray St. HC's who left for power conf. jobs)

Again, he's not someone who I'm overly excited about getting the job. But we don't know what the LSU job currently looks like to the coaching world. It probably would be hard to pull an established HC from a good situation at a power conf to take over at LSU right now.

Good post. But when I say recruiting, I’m talking about the transfer portal too. It’s recruiting just like high schoolers they just have been in college for a few years. But it’s the same recruiting skill
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21127 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:51 pm to
Last 3 murray state coaches have shite the bed at P5 schools.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:52 pm to
Solid hire given the circumstances. Without having a great deal of knowledge about their pre-LSU careers, he seems about on par with Wade when we hired him, if not a bit better.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:52 pm to
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The whole key is if he can recruit like Wade


If he's not willing to do what it takes, we're screwed, but maybe he's smarter than Wade and will hire a middle man/fall guy to be a buffer.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61839 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Far better coach than Wade!


If he wins the SEC in year 2.

If not, I guess he isn’t.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40280 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
Lot of twitter comments saying this is a really good hire and Murray State folks definitely didn’t want him leaving FWIW
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10927 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
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The whole key is if he can recruit like Wade.
Let's hope not!

He betta at least have a few men carrying bags.
Posted by PANTHER
Bunkie
Member since Oct 2004
2268 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
Anybody else think that since we got a guy so fast that maybe the sanctions are already known? That way they could communicate to coach what to expect. Seems like he would stay there are go to the other schools that showed interest in him if the sky was falling at LSU
Posted by CWILKS3
Covington
Member since Apr 2020
768 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
Streaks are meant to be broken
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