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re: Peetz scheme was fine but PC and execution was horrible. Darante Jones was just horrible.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:29 pm to tigereye58
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:29 pm to tigereye58
Both coordinators were bad in their first game.
We could not be innovative with running plays and no big adjustments on both sides of the ball. Both lines were dominated that impacted what the team can do on both sides of the line. Let's face it. That has to be amended quickly or LSU will be in for another long year minus excuses.
Coach O did say, Peetz was slow. Period.
We could not be innovative with running plays and no big adjustments on both sides of the ball. Both lines were dominated that impacted what the team can do on both sides of the line. Let's face it. That has to be amended quickly or LSU will be in for another long year minus excuses.
Coach O did say, Peetz was slow. Period.
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:37 pm to BK785
quote:No.
A good QB could really mask those issues. Johnson was bad, in turn made everything else looked worse.
Johnson was limited in what he was given, and UCLA was all over it on defense. He got hit a number of times, and got a little punch drunk.
One thing I noticed in particular- the bunch formation and UCLA's response. They knew it was coming, and capitalized on it. They threw some unusual blitzes against it, which worked because the blitzer was lining up close to the formation instead of out wide. They intended to hit Johnson as much as possible, and we played into it. Even on completions, he was getting drilled.
That's gotta change, we need to go more conservative and work on the run. Forget all the WR talent a second, we have 1 experienced QB, who is a true sophomore with 4 games experience, and 1 true freshman backup. Season's in danger, but it's over if we lose Johnson before Brennan can come back.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:40 pm to tigereye58
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That’s the way I see it. I think the offense continues to improve and will be fine. His scheme wasn’t bad. Oline was incredibly bad and the WR core was average but showed some good things. Boutte, Thomas and Jenkins all looked really good at time.
The defense looked like they had no clue. LB play might be the worst I’ve ever seen at LSU. Scheme and play calling was predictable and bland. Aranda was creative even in a bend don’t break style.
Watching that first half film study video, what's obvious isn't so much the scheme, though some of the route design was lousy and the run game is a complete disaster - why are we not running jet sweeps when we have Trey Palmer and Keyshawn Boutte on the field? - the problem is Max Johnson's insistence on drifting back in the pocket rather than climbing it and putting the defense on its heels.
Climbing the pocket means somebody has to spy on the QB at all times, because he can take off running at any time. It also means the offensive line needs to pass protect for a shorter period of time, because when you get behind the QB as a pass rusher you now have to change direction while you're being blocked and that takes forever.
Johnson keeps drifting back, which means we have to hold pass blocks more. It's terrible.
I don't know if it's Peetz or Mangas who's coaching quarterbacks, but frankly I think this OC and PGC stuff is garbage. Have an offensive coordinator and a QB coach. If it's the same guy, great. Have the other guy coach tight ends, because God knows we don't have a tight end who looks like he's ever been coached in the position before.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:41 pm to Scoob
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One thing I noticed in particular- the bunch formation and UCLA's response. They knew it was coming, and capitalized on it. They threw some unusual blitzes against it, which worked because the blitzer was lining up close to the formation instead of out wide. They intended to hit Johnson as much as possible, and we played into it. Even on completions, he was getting drilled.
clemson did the exact same thing to us in the NCG when we went bunch
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:49 pm to DBeaux225
Our LBs have been the problem last year and Saturday night. 
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:52 pm to tigereye58
Part of the offense is running the ball they couldn't do any of that. In fact Peetz kept running inside didn't even try to run outside at all so no the offense wasn't fine and he was just as bad bro.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:53 pm to tigereye58
Also he couldn't even get the freaking plays in. Idk how many times I'm seeing the clock run down 2 or 1 seconds. Joe Brady that ball was snapping quick in 2019.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:55 pm to madddoggydawg
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Shouldn’t an offensive scheme involve running the ball?
what do you NOT comprehend about we could not run because line was bad?
we tried running from spread formations, very beneficial to getting a run game going
still could not do it
yeah get in a fricking les miles ACE big formation or I formation and run into a 9 man front instead. see how that works out for ya.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:57 pm to coldcace
u can complain about no horizontal stretch runs( agree we need those also or at least horizontal passes) or RB screens (my complaint) but we prolly would not have executed those either. we sucked at the line. QB was jittery. it was a clusterfrick.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:24 pm to BK785
Good grief man.....do you know how many yards Chardonnay would have gained running behind the LSU oline? Less than 20!is my guess
Johnson was under pressure 90% of every pass play with no adjustments made when UCLA loaded up one side of the line...LSU just ran the play tight into them or was sacked on the blitz.....just terrible offensive awareness
Are you guys still impressed with your woke choices for coaches on oline and defense? What a complete joke!
Johnson was under pressure 90% of every pass play with no adjustments made when UCLA loaded up one side of the line...LSU just ran the play tight into them or was sacked on the blitz.....just terrible offensive awareness
Are you guys still impressed with your woke choices for coaches on oline and defense? What a complete joke!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:16 pm to QB
Brennan was working behind this same line and didn't play as badly. That backhanded pass should have gotten Johnson benched immediately. No threat of a deep pass will have defenders near the LOS. SEC defenses will eat Johnson alive if he doesn't play better.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:17 pm to QB
Crying about “woke” coordinator hires is so lame. So so so lame.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:26 pm to tigereye58
quote:Feels like the same old song and dance - any hint of mis-direction, and everything falls to shite.
Darante Jones was just horrible.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:02 am to supatigah
quote:Against Clemson, we had prime Burrow at the top of his game, with 3 elite WRs, a good TE and a great RB all in synch. And we didn't have to play more games later.quote:
One thing I noticed in particular- the bunch formation and UCLA's response. They knew it was coming, and capitalized on it. They threw some unusual blitzes against it, which worked because the blitzer was lining up close to the formation instead of out wide. They intended to hit Johnson as much as possible, and we played into it. Even on completions, he was getting drilled.
clemson did the exact same thing to us in the NCG when we went bunch
Against UCLA, we had Johnson still in "I think it's this, and maybe I should do that" mode, 1 elite WR, a subpar RB and a couple random guys filling the other spots, not on the same page. Johnson is not yet at Burrow 2018 level, and outside of Boutte there's nobody else he can find at a moment's glance.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:53 am to DBeaux225
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Our linebackers were horrible last game and last year
Do we have any linebackers?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:00 am to tigereye58
100% on both points.
After the first quarter, once Ward went out and especially after Kelly made adjustments our D had ZERO answers.
It's a very small sample size but either Jones was a bad hire or O has too much control over the defense (or both - which is probably most likely).
After the first quarter, once Ward went out and especially after Kelly made adjustments our D had ZERO answers.
It's a very small sample size but either Jones was a bad hire or O has too much control over the defense (or both - which is probably most likely).
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:13 am to tigereye58
P > J, but both worse than last year's coaches.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:25 am to Geauxgurt
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Say what you want about Coach E, but he knew how to call runs and mix them in. Peetz is literally going to call passes too much. When your QB has no time and to counter the rush they ran maybe 1 draw? 27 first half passes not including pass plays that he got sacked on or scrambled bs 7 called runs.
Did u see the pathetic attempt at run blocking. The fact he started calling quick pass plays was the only adjustment he could make. Like an extended handoff and let the skill guys make plays in the open. There were zero running lanes
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:27 am to tigereye58
I can tell you one thing, watching most teams playing this past weekend seemed to have a clue and we did not.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:28 am to DBeaux225
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Our linebackers were horrible last game and last year
It's becoming apparent that it is Ed's defense, not Darante's. It seems like we've been through this before with Les and his 70's Schembechler offense.
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