re: Orgeron will get things fixed

Okay Karen

If you believe that, you need some serious psychiatric help.

Orgeron will become the next Chizdick. Mark my words. From penthouse to outhouse in record time.

These were his hires, he owns their performance.

This is shades of Les Miles hiring incompetence and had hoped O was different, apparently not.

LSU being LSU

quote:

---

The vitriol is not surprising. People who were not sold on O before were just waiting for a stumble so they could re-emerge and call for his firing. It's what happens with fan bases. We get upset and let out the frustration by calling for everyone's head. The time frame for "what have you done for me lately" has shortened significantly. These people weren't calling for O's head when they were singing "We are the Champions" in January.

Everyone will have their own statistics to prove any point they want. What I've seen is someone who has grown and developed and made the changes he needed to make when he needed to make them. Based on what I've seen, I expect more adjustments and changes until he gets it right. I think it's early to speculate on coaching changes in the off season. We have 7 more games in front of us. It would be smart to work with your staff to do what needs to be done first. Then at the end of the year if it's still not working you hand out the pink slips.

---

Finally, someone gets it!!

He better, or he’ll be riding the bus from Baton Rouge to Natchitoches for the second time in his life.

I was Anti-O but he showed it can work and work at the highest level.

He just needs to make good coordinator choices.

I’m worried we’re financially saddled with Bo.

Maybe we can fire Linehan and E retires. (Yes thenoffense is an issue. We are back to one of the worst red zone offenses in the country almost half our drives stall.)

I would Normally say give Bo some time, but there is a lot more than just talent issues going on.

Pelini and Linehan were not great hires. Neither was Canada. He flushed Canada when it didn't work. He will do the same with the other two unless they right this. He has shown that he will do whatever for LSU.

Long post, so I apologize in advance...

I’m really getting tired of the vitriol, both towards our coaches and our players. Yes, the defense is bad. Yes, it’s on Orgeron (and Pelini, of course) to fix it. I’m as embarrassed as anyone to see an LSU defense shite the bed the way it has this year. But I’m also embarrassed to be part of a fan base that has zero fricking loyalty to the people who brought them the best season in the history of college football. I’m embarrassed to be part of a fan base that gets in pissing matches with 18-19 year old kids on Twitter. I’m embarrassed that our fans have zero self awareness of where we are as a program.

I posted this in another thread last night but I think it’s worth repeating:

Of active FBS head coaches, only 3 (including Orgeron) have won a national championship with their current program. Only six have a higher winning percentage than Orgeron at their current program. Of those six, one has only been head coach for a year (Ryan Day), and one is in the Group of 5 (Josh Heupel). That leaves Saban, Dabo, Mullen, and Riley.

When a coach goes 15-0 and wins a national championship, he should earn enough rope to fix these issues without the chorus of “fire the shrimp boat captain” constantly droning in the background. Because at the end of the day, there’s absolutely no guarantee that the next guy will be better. In fact, there’s a high likelihood that he won’t be better. Remember Herman? Remember Jimbo?

And don’t get me started on Ensminger. Putting aside the fact that we set SEC records in yards per game and points per game last year, we are currently averaging 467 yards per game this year. That puts us on track for #2 in school history, despite a new QB and a running game that still hasn’t been established. Our 38.7 points per game would also be #2 in school history.

“But we can’t convert third downs!” - yep, it’s a problem that needs to be addressed. However, we are still averaging 24.3 first downs per game. Over the course of a 13 game season, that would put us #3 in school history for total first downs.

“But our offense sucked in 2018!” Well, our offense certainly wasn’t great in 2018. But if you go back to 2000 (the “modern era” of LSU football for most), our 2018 offense was actually in the upper 50% in terms of both yards per game and points per game. And perhaps most importantly, Ensminger recognized the need to switch to a spread offense - which LSU has never done before.

Despite all of this, people around here shite on Ensminger every day. Steve Ensminger, a former LSU quarterback from Baton Rouge who is on track to have the top two offenses in LSU history. Do I wish we still had Joe Brady? Of course! But I’m not going to take that out on a guy who has poured his heart and soul into our program.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t be critical of the coaches, or the players for that matter. I’m just saying we should be able to be critical without the vitriol. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted to hell for the wall of text, but frick man, this is getting exhausting.

TL;DR - our fan base is spoiled and has an unrealistic sense of entitlement.

quote:

---

TL;DR - our fan base is spoiled and has an unrealistic sense of entitlement.

---

Lol, yall keep saying this but we fired our most successful coach before. And everything you posted was said about Les too. Maybe people question why we keep bringing in guys from that regime to coach this team moving forward. It actually makes no sense whatsoever.