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Orgeron will get things fixed

Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:00 pm
I expect improvement this year and then mass coaching changes next year. I’m really surprised at the re-emerging hate for Orgeron. It’s really hard to understand at this point.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by coolmonk
Member since Jan 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:01 pm to
O hired these clowns. Does he just get a pass to flush millions down the toilet?
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:01 pm to
Yes, he does. It’s how this works.
Posted by Ethan Martin
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
1701 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:02 pm to
I agree, but I also think Pelini will get things turned around. Linehan will be the only change
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

It’s really hard to understand at this point.


Agreed. Sometimes shite doesn't work out. What I cannot excuse is the lack of effort. If he can't get that changed then he deserves every bit of criticism.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:04 pm to
Pelini won’t make it...just too far a gap.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
9977 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

It’s really hard to understand at this point.


Are you watching the games? Are you listening to the post game conferences? What do you not understand?
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:05 pm to
Hate for a coach that won you an NC. Not willing to even let him fix it. Calling him a bad coach. People wanting him fired etc etc. just read the board.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Yes, he does. It’s how this works.
No he shouldn't that's what comes with being the Head football coach. He doesn't get a pass this is his mess he created it he needs to fix it, or he needs to go
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:06 pm to
I see people saying he was a bad hire all along. That’s the part I don’t get.
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:07 pm to
Orgeron is an arse-clown who caught lightning in a bottle last year.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:07 pm to
He is a bad coach. We knew this when he was hired.

Is there a scenario that you would criticize him over?
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Orgeron is an arse-clown who caught lightning in a bottle last year.


Case in point
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41509 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:08 pm to
I have faith that Orgeron will eventually fix things but man this year is going to suck.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20874 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

It’s really hard to understand at this point.




When your players aren't giving effort that's 100% on coaching.

We went from a cerebral highly intelligent d coordinator to a guy yelling at his players after each busted play who refuses to adjust coverages. Regardless of your philosophy on coaching thats going to be a shock to a lot of players systems and their mentality as a defense.

Also frick Bo Pelini
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8303 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:10 pm to
Pelini is a bust. State has 16 points since LSU. Missouri offense will be shut down the rest of the season. Offensively every team they play here on out will run right down their throat. Prediction. Ensminger will retire or move to a different position. Linahan will be gone.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10421 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

O hired these clowns. Does he just get a pass to flush millions down the toilet?
Coach O looking at the fan base/TAF after throwing away millions on bad hires
Posted by Mister Falcon
Member since Dec 2019
435 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Pelini won’t make it...just too far a gap.


You’re talking about a team that almost didn’t buyout Les Miles for 1.5 million and you think they’re going to buyout a DC after one season for 3x that, with all the $ lost from this Covid season?

You guys are nuts.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8176 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

I’m really surprised at the re-emerging hate for Orgeron. It’s really hard to understand at this point.


It's several things.

1)This team isn't just not good. It's the worst LSU team since the 1990's.

2)His hires and attitude since the championship reek of someone who has no idea why his teams were good. From shots at Aranda and comments about how awesome Pelini and the 4-3 is, to saying Ensminger ran most of the offense last year. Everyone not looking through P&G glasses knew those hires were awful. And if you go back and look at the three biggest pieces of the national title, Aranda, Brady, Joe, all three were either forced on O or fell in his lap.

3) Aranda left. Aranda was not only the D-coordinator but the associate HC. A lot of people suspected Aranda was propping O up for at least the first few years of his tenure. Providing the program with planning, discipline, strategy. Now it's a coincidence that when he leaves, O's first year without him, we look like Ole Miss during O's years there?
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58542 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

1)This team isn't just not good. It's the worst LSU team since the 1990's.

2)His hires and attitude since the championship reek of someone who has no idea why his teams were good. From shots at Aranda and comments about how awesome Pelini and the 4-3 is, to saying Ensminger ran most of the offense last year. Everyone not looking through P&G glasses knew those hires were awful. And if you go back and look at the three biggest pieces of the national title, Aranda, Brady, Joe, all three were either forced on O or fell in his lap.

3) Aranda left. Aranda was not only the D-coordinator but the associate HC. A lot of people suspected Aranda was propping O up for at least the first few years of his tenure. Providing the program with planning, discipline, strategy. Now it's a coincidence that when he leaves, O's first year without him, we look like Ole Miss during O's years there.


A lot of truth here.
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