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Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:29 pm to Htownbayubengal
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Bk has had issues in the past at ND with clinging to mobile QBs that don't pass well and has been exposed in playoffs.
We’ve been over this and it’s been shown with evidence that he just was not able to get the caliber players (especially at skill positions like WR) at ND that he can at LSU due to higher admission requirements.
Besides, it’s not like mobile QBs can’t win championship. Pretty sure Bama has done it several times. Y’all act like JD is going to be the only QB we ever have here under BK. Maybe the next one can throw it better than JD. Not all mobile QBs are JD.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:30 pm to J2thaROC
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You do realize that it’s irrelevant HOW you move the ball downfield right? Maybe you don’t. You don’t come across as very bright.
And personally I don’t give a shite which QB starts. I’m simply pointing at that the sudden love fest with Nuss is ridiculous. You don’t have enough data on him to claim he is better.
One is a 4 year starter including 13 games at LSU and one started a game in 2021 and has barely played this season and you want to compare them like they are in the same scenario in the championship game and lauding JD SECCG stats? UGA actually had to try and defend the field when Nuss came in. How about Arkie and A&M?
Laughable.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:35 pm to J2thaROC
Bama’s never won a natty with a run first QB. Jones and Coker were the last 2 starters to win it at Bama and Tua had to come in and win one because Hurts couldn’t.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:38 pm to Htownbayubengal
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Nuss will have growing pains but the upside is huge...he will make less bad plays over time.
This is something you just can not know for sure. Plenty of QBs never get any better. He may be what he’s going to be.
No one is saying JD is perfect or even a great QB. He’s not. He’s decent and does some things well. I don’t think any of us are saying Nuss is always going to be terrible or that he doesn’t also have an upside. I think most of us are just saying calm down and let it play out. Stop crowing Nuss king (because you simply don’t know how he would do as the starter. It may be good, it may go south real quick). Stop shitting all over JD like he’s the worst thing to ever happen to LSU. Is he flawed as a QB? Absolutely. But he’s not nearly as horrible as some of you are making him out to be. We did win the west after all, we did beat Bama (something only the 2019 team has done lately). I really think LSU is going to be okay under BK. If we aren’t, he will be fired in several years. I can guarantee you if that happens, he won’t leave us in nearly as piss poor shape as Ed “shrimp boats and hoes” Orgeron left us.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:41 pm to Madking
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Tua had to come in and win one because Hurts couldn’t.
Who wants to tell him?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:43 pm to J2thaROC
Tua isn’t a running QB. Sorry you don’t know anything about football.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:43 pm to tirebiter
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UGA actually had to try and defend the field when Nuss came in
So JDs running ability doesn’t make them defend against that? It’s like some of you don’t even know why coaches love duel threat QBs. It literally means a defensive back (that would normally be in coverage) now has to account for the running threat of the QB.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:45 pm to Madking
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Tua isn’t a running QB. Sorry you don’t know anything about football.
Ahahahahahaha
He’s literally listed as a duel threat AND got injured on a running play against Mississippi State before our game against them in 2019.
Wow.. I don’t even know why I bothered to respond you you before. I knew better than to engage in your idiocy.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:51 pm to stephendomalley
Why do people feel the need to shite on Daniels? He isn’t perfect but he did an admirable job and gave us the best chance to win this year. He played his arse off.
Why ridicule a Tiger ?
Why ridicule a Tiger ?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 3:54 pm to slackster
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Look at the drops and whatnot that Nuss experienced too
all of that can be attributed to zero practice time and receivers not having passes thrown to them all year long. at some point its a complete surprise when they see the ball coming to them.
yes, a lot of the blame should be on the WR, but they said at beginning of the game that nuss had no practice time at all with the team before that game.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:04 pm to J2thaROC
You’re an idiot, the guy has never rushed for 200 yards in a season, college or Pro and had nearly 100 fewer attempts in his college career than JD had this season. Again you don’t know what you’re talking about as usual.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:11 pm to J2thaROC
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So JDs running ability doesn’t make them defend against that? It’s like some of you don’t even know why coaches love duel threat QBs. It literally means a defensive back (that would normally be in coverage) now has to account for the running threat of the QB.
I would agree in principle but the last 3 games teams have incorporated a spy and we could not take advantage of it. Ark committed two spys to Daniels and he couldnt muster a 100 yds passing plus he couldnt run either.
My personal feeling or eval here is that JD has all the tools necessary to be the #1 Draft pick but his brain does not process the situation fast enough to react to it. Maybe training will help him but he has played 4 seasons...
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:20 pm to J2thaROC
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So JDs running ability doesn’t make them defend against that? It’s like some of you don’t even know why coaches love duel threat QBs. It literally means a defensive back (that would normally be in coverage) now has to account for the running threat of the QB.
Did you watch the last three games those teams wanted Daniels to try and beat them throwing they sold out to stop the run and IT WORKED. How do you think teams will play us all next year if Daniels is our Qb and doesn't show vast improvement in the first few games that he can throw the ball over the middle or down the field consistently? His running saved us in some games but unfortunately it kept us one dimensional at the end even against Aggie.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:45 pm to Htownbayubengal
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So in your opinion it evened out right? One would think with his mobility 40+ sacks ain't happening. I get it though...not his fault...and of course nuss would have had 60+ because he is white and slow. Lol. Nuss has more brains in his toe than JD has period.
What in the flying mother of frick are you melting about
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 6:34 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:18 pm to J2thaROC
Dude, Tuas last year at Bama he ran 23 times for 17 yards. 10 of those runs were actually sacks
Tua was not a running QB in college
Tua was not a running QB in college
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:56 pm to RobbBobb
JRock- “got injured on a running play against Mississippi State”
Drew Bledsoe got hurt on a running play so I guess he was a duel threat QB too? This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
Drew Bledsoe got hurt on a running play so I guess he was a duel threat QB too? This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:05 pm to J2thaROC
A lot of poster look at a qb to move the defense around and make them pay for it. The shorter the defense has to cover passes or running is to their advantage. So jd5 cannot loosen up the safeties. Therefore they are uptight to stop the run and short passes. Weak teams you can get away with it, but teams that specifically have good talent in the back 7 will stop you every time. You need to be able to back them safeties off the line of scrimmage going forward whether it is JD5 or Nuss. If JD can great if not move over let a qb that can.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:19 pm to Tigre Diablo
Vic and the White Tiger are one and the same.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:25 pm to stephendomalley
Agree with OP. The great ones make everyone around them better and take the no names and make them look good. Burrow did it his senior season and the great ones do it all the time in the NFL. Not sure Daniels at this point is that type of guy.
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