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re: One of the elite Defensive Schools, and we can't get an elite DC?!? Could this be why?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:29 am to msully
Posted on 1/22/21 at 5:29 am to msully
Coach O did not bring in Arranda, Miles did. And it’s known Arranda and O did not get along thus he left for Baylor. And any elite coordinator knows O is one bad year away from being fired. There’s no job security here
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:35 am to TigerFan244
Complete nonsense. Getting a position like DC at LSU ... if you are correct... would be a fast track to a head coaching position.
Anyway Orgeron is a very good head coach. Talent/recruiting is about 90% of the game at the highest levels of CFB
Have a nice day
Anyway Orgeron is a very good head coach. Talent/recruiting is about 90% of the game at the highest levels of CFB
Have a nice day
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:38 am to TigerFan244
Btw LSU has been weak talent wise and depth wise on the Dline and LB spots from 2013 to 2020... Miles let the line of scrimmage talent go way down.
The talent on the Dline has been rebuilt. LB and Oline remains to be seen.
Tell Joe Brady that no one wants to work for Orgeron. And no one gets lifted up or grows in their career.
The talent on the Dline has been rebuilt. LB and Oline remains to be seen.
Tell Joe Brady that no one wants to work for Orgeron. And no one gets lifted up or grows in their career.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:45 am to TigerFan244
OP, don’t let your hate blind you.
You assume that talented coaches from around the country are not calling LSU. You assume that LSU will not sign a talented DC. And I find it interesting that you compare Coach O to the absolute best coaches at multiple levels of this life time. FTR O coached teams have beaten Saban, and I am not investigating if one has beaten a Meyer team.
LSU is bigger than O. It is bigger than any asst coach. Any up and coming coach wanting to test his abilities against the best players with the best players will jump at the chance to be at LSU.
After typing all of that.....it just hit me that the explanation for your OP is much simpler than all of this......you are probably just an emotional woman. It’s ok, honey. It will be ok.
You assume that talented coaches from around the country are not calling LSU. You assume that LSU will not sign a talented DC. And I find it interesting that you compare Coach O to the absolute best coaches at multiple levels of this life time. FTR O coached teams have beaten Saban, and I am not investigating if one has beaten a Meyer team.
LSU is bigger than O. It is bigger than any asst coach. Any up and coming coach wanting to test his abilities against the best players with the best players will jump at the chance to be at LSU.
After typing all of that.....it just hit me that the explanation for your OP is much simpler than all of this......you are probably just an emotional woman. It’s ok, honey. It will be ok.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:45 am to mhc4tigers
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Anyway Orgeron is a very good head coach
If so, who else in P5 football would hire Ed O?
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:48 am to TigerFan244
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There's no value in that (and arguably negative value to their brand).
Simply not true. We’re blessed to be the only big school in the most talent rich per capital state in the country. You come here, you will coach elite pro prospects. The Jimmy’s and Joes make your Xs and Os look better.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:58 am to TheFranchise
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We’re blessed to be the only big school in the most talent rich per capital state in the country. You come here, you will coach elite pro prospects.
Did u even read the OP?!? I say exactly this. We have an embarrassment of riches talent wise in this state. LSU as a program has a great brand. I was talking about there being no value being associated with or working under Coach O. Unless you are a good ol boy like Ensminger or Pelini. Coach Os brand may be good to attract recruits but not good to attract elite coaches who will invariably be smarter than he is. If yall dont think that this is being considered by coaches I think u r being naive. Freeman didnt just chose to be “closer to home” he chose what he wants his brand to be.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:09 am to TigerFan244
So recruits are stupid and ignore Os dumbassery to come to LSU but coaches are smarter and know not to come here cause O is an idiot.
Got it.
Got it.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:11 am to TigerFan244
You damn fools! Do I need to remind you that Eaux was Coach of the Year?? From wiki:
Associated Press Coach of the Year (2019)
Home Depot Coach of the Year (2019)
Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Award (2019)
George Munger Award (2019)
Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2019)
SEC Coach of the Year (2019)
Associated Press Coach of the Year (2019)
Home Depot Coach of the Year (2019)
Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Award (2019)
George Munger Award (2019)
Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2019)
SEC Coach of the Year (2019)
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:12 am to TigerFan244
Orgeron is a buffoon. We should have a DC by now and it looks worse every day
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:12 am to TigerFan244
I agree, OP. Elite coaches don't want to work for a guy who knows less football and can't teach them anything.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:14 am to TigerFan244
quote:You know what? You're right. I'll go ahead and fire him this afternoon.
Up and coming or elite coordinators (especially those who have aspirations of ultimately becoming head coaches) don't want to work for Ed Orgeron
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:15 am to TigerFan244
Trust the journal, I mean binder
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:17 am to LSUTIGERS8181
O didnt teach aranda or Brady a damn thing and we fell on our face without them
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:23 am to Tigerlaff
Just like every previous example, this coordinator search is a total sham.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:23 am to TigerFan244
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One of the elite Defensive Schools, and we can't get an elite DC?!?
LSU doesn’t need an Elite DC or a Hot name, just can’t afford another Bo. An avg DC would look like a god send compared to last year
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:30 am to Geauxldilocks
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If so, who else in P5 football would hire Ed O?
If LSU would have fired O strictly for on the field reason after the 2020 season. I think Auburn would have called him and Tennessee as well hell USC may have fired Clay Helton and brought O back. No one is going to actively try and hire him while he is at LSU because they know he isn’t leaving. He is one year removed from a national championship someone would give him another shot.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:36 am to TigerFan244
It's more about the instability at the OC/DC level than it is specifically about O. O helped create it but it's not all on him.
If you know Ed, you know he's very convincing. Ed could sell water to a fish, it's not just him.
If you know Ed, you know he's very convincing. Ed could sell water to a fish, it's not just him.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 7:45 am to geauxtigers33
Maybe someone like Kansas but not those other schools.
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