re: Oklahoma pass first offense wins another Heisman, LSU remains run first

We need some semblance of balance. It helps with recruiting and it gives us the opportunity to catch up when we're behind or grind the clock when it's called for. We need the athletes and the schemes, and someone skilled enough to recognize what's going on on the other side of the line and adjust.

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He talks about Chicken’s army constantly too. He’s part of some other propaganda machine.

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You know what pisses me off about this?

I think I'm the only one he's named! I've become an unwitting participant in an internet conspiracy!

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We need some semblance of balance. It helps with recruiting and it gives us the opportunity to catch up when we're behind or grind the clock when it's called for.

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So you consider it a bad thing if a running back has a lot of receiving yards and only a few rushing yards?

Ah so now that it’s convenient we go back 15 years.
The narrative has been that 4 years ago is not relevant.

How about last year and this year. How many playoff appearances?
How many for LSU.

Boom, my arse.

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Does it really matter??????? Scoring more points than the other team is whats its all about... I don't care if its 43-41 our 17-14.....

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I agree! 100%. Problem is many people here believe you have to run the ball a minimum number of times to win a game no matter what.


When was the last time LSU won a game throwing the ball 80% of the game? Name one time that happened in the last 20 years. I'm not saying it should happen every game, but LSU has never even proven once it was capable of being a dominant passing team at least since 2008, a decade.

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I agree! 100%. Problem is many people here believe you have to run the ball a minimum number of times to win a game no matter what.

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No they don’t. You win by doing whatever is working regardless if it’s running the ball or passing it.


Air raid offense in not the end all be all offense you are making it out to be. It’s strong against weak defenses but in the SEC when you have outstanding secondary players who can AND WILL make plays to intercept the ball, it just doesn’t work out very well.

Yeah, it’s flashy, and yeah, it’s fun to see long pass plays and high scores, but it’s just not the answer you think it is.

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Yeah, it’s flashy, and yeah, it’s fun to see long pass plays and high scores, but it’s just not the answer you think it is.

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I don't think anyone is arguing for LSU to go full-blown Leach.

The "air-raid" offense in Oklahoma? They had 859 plays and ran the ball 495 times; they ran 57.6% of the time.

LSU had 864 plays and 511 runs for a run percentage of 59.1%.

Please remember that a lot of spread teams run very well, including Alabama, Ohio State and Oklahoma.

You can pass efficiently and still spread-to-run with a focus on running the ball. You can run out of the spread and utilize 'air raid' passing concepts.

Staying with the pro-style / under center stuff? IDGAF -- steal coaches from Georgia and Washington and add elements of those offenses to whatever offense Ensminger is running. That's what you're doing? Awesome, do it.

LSU can't afford to stand still when A&M and Florida are getting better and their biggest issue is so glaringly obvious. This offense is just not good enough.

"Amazing what a pass first offense can do:"Oklahoma, ALA, and LSU are virtually identical in Pass % and Attempts/Game. The difference is that their Spread RPO Tempo Offenses are Elite and Efficient: QBs are phenomenal.

Oklahoma ----- 28.0 Att/gm = 43.59% Pass ----- Rank 86th

Alabama ------- 28.8 Att/gm = 43.49% Pass --- Rank 88th

LSU ------------- 29.4 Att/gm = 43.47% Pass ---- Rank 89th (most atts in last 10 yrs)







A question that is applicable to the entire Power 5: If your team isn't "complete" in the same way that Bama is (extraordinary offense and defense), is it more integral to have an elite defense or elite offense?

This year, we've seen that teams with great defenses but limited offenses (LSU, Mississippi State) can only get so far. Mississippi State might have the best overall defense in the country and the Bulldogs were still 8-4. Meanwhile, Oklahoma's pourous defense has only cost the Sooners one game -- a 48-45 loss to Texas that featured three offensive turnovers.

Alabama is a perfect example of a team that's changed it's philosophy in recent years. The Crimson Tide have decided to open up its offense, which means its defense will likely give up a few more points. Watching Clemson and Alabama in recent years, that's where the game appears to be headed. It's easier to have a somewhat functional defense than a somewhat functional offense.

Burrow



The Difference Jimbo & Mullen made with Mond & Franks:





Total Offense: Overall Rank Pass/Run Rank


2018 --------74th-45th(OT)-----------83th/58th------Ensminger

While I would like to see us open up the offense, comparing us to Oklahoma is misleading without considering all of the variables. For example, if I told you that I ran a 10.10 hundred meters, that would impress some. The fact that I left off the part that I was running on a moving walkway in an airport may change perceptions. Oklahoma plays against shite defenses. The Gumps elite defense and 5 star depth means quick scoring drives (or the occasional three and out) are not major concerns. Framing these things in a vacuum without considering all of the variables is disingenuous imho. I agree that a more wide open offense would be awesome, but to act as though that transition is easy due to stats (some not even remotely applicable imo) seems like a way to push the O and E sucks narrative without figuring in all of the facets involved.

TLDR - I want a wide open offense, but I am reasonable in terms of expectations given our current line up and SEC competition.