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re: Oklahoma pass first offense wins another Heisman, LSU remains run first
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:36 am to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:36 am to Tigertown in ATL
And lost. I don't think you quite grasp why teams like OU very rarely beat teams with good defense and can control the clock. They will score on Bama, sure, as they will connect on big plays in their air raid attack. They will also get beaten by a large margin because that O they run isn't conducive to good d. Watch.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:38 am to tiggerthetooth
Too bad they don't have a defense. We'll see how this pass first offense works against Alabama. My guess is Murray will be under pressure all game. Translation...no chance.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:38 am to Tillmanscorner
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They will also get beaten by a large margin because that O they run isn't conducive to good d. Watch.
well Bama runs that offense now so...
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
Bama has evolved because they have backup 5 stars on the lines, and playmakers better than ours. It's funny how you guys don't see it all starts with protection. Bama isn't a gimmick offense, they just have better players
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
No they don't. Bama is still run first. Jesus
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:41 am to tiggerthetooth
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Yes, tell that to the Heisman trophy. Pass first wins.
Who cares? You might have a good thought around improving the offense - not like anyone ever had that idea before - but why are you coming at it from a completely irrelevant angle like the Heisman? We've won 2 championships since OU's last one. Heisman does not matter.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:41 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:what this idiot is really suggesting is that LSU needs to join the Big 12. Murray would not have won the Heisman if he played in the SEC.
I answer relevant questions only. LSU hasn't been relevant since 2011. Oklahoma has been far more relevant than LSU in every way.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:42 am to Tillmanscorner
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No they don't. Bama is still run first. Jesus
so is OU
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:43 am to Tillmanscorner
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And lost.
Completely irrelevant to the point. Which was that they can’t score against an SEC defense.
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I don’t think you quite grasp
Man you seem to be a condescending arrogant know it all.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:44 am to Tillmanscorner
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It's funny how you guys don't see it all starts with protection
i don't disagree but their OL schemes are not only better than our's, they're in sync with the total offensive philosophy
we had a shaky OL (in talent and scheme) last year and Stevie E continued to run an offense that would expose those issues
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:they are also doing it with players we deemed as not being good enough for LSU
i don't disagree but their OL schemes are not only better than our's, they're in sync with the total offensive philosophy
Cody Ford, for one.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
just to clarify:
Bama passing attempts: 374
OU passing attempts: 364
Bama rushing attempts: 492 (56.8%)
OU rushing attempts: 495 (57.6%)
so OU actually had a higher % of runs than Bama
Bama passing attempts: 374
OU passing attempts: 364
Bama rushing attempts: 492 (56.8%)
OU rushing attempts: 495 (57.6%)
so OU actually had a higher % of runs than Bama
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:51 am to Datbayoubengal
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I answer relevant questions only. LSU hasn't been relevant since 2011. Oklahoma has been far more relevant than LSU in every way.
Lol, you're getting downvoted for speaking the truth.
He’s getting downvoted for being wrong, so are you.
Prior to the A&M fiasco, the last regular season game of the season, we were ranked #7 in the CFP. But let’s pretend that’s not relevant so it fits a narrative.
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LSU fans like to talk about how teams like USC and Notre Dame are yearly overrated, yet before this year we we were also getting the same treatment and then fell on our asses.
Before the season here was the predictions for the SEC west. 5th of 7 seems like we were way overrated
1 Alabama 1,971 (263)
2 Auburn 1,664 (19)
3 Mississippi State 1,239 (2)
4 Texas A&M 1,091
5 LSU 1,025
6 Ole Miss 578
7 Arkansas 412
Preseason AP and Coaches polls 24th and 25th ( currently 11th in both polls). USC was ranked 15th, they are not even bowl eligible. The questions around Norte Dame are in regards to their schedule and lack of conference affiliation, which some see as an advantage.
AP
1 Alabama(42)
2 Clemson(18)
3 Georgia
4 Wisconsin(1)
5 Ohio State
6 Washington
7 Oklahoma
8 Miami
9 Auburn
10 Penn State
11 Michigan State
12 Notre Dame
13 Stanford
14 Michigan
15 USC
16 TCU
17 West Virginia
18 Mississippi State
19 Florida State
20 Virginia Tech
21 UCF
22 Boise State
23 Texas
24 Oregon
25 LSU
Coaches
1 Alabama(61)
2 Clemson(3)
3 Ohio State(1)
4 Georgia
5 Oklahoma
6 Washington
7 Wisconsin
8 Miami
9 Penn State
10 Auburn
11 Notre Dame
12 Michigan State
13 Stanford
14 Michigan
15 USC
16 TCU
17 Virginia Tech
18 Mississippi State
19 Florida State
20 West Virginia
21 Texas
22 Boise State
23 UCF
24 LSU
25 Oklahoma State
I’m not sure you guys understand what the word overrated means.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 8:54 am to Mayhawman
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The facts are that we have a drop problem,
All drops are problems, but the severity of this in the LSU offense is a common deflection and not really "fact".
Thanks so much for that! They want to blame everyone and everything for Burrow’s low numbers but Burrow. They didn’t do that for the other QBs they’ve castigated over the years with similar numbers. They were called dumb, slow thinking and incapable of reading defenses.
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:18 am to SlowFlowPro
There isn't any scheme to coach around a porous OL. I know y'all think a good OF can do that, but that doesn't make it true. A good DC knows what few things there are to help mitigate the poor OL play...and he takes those away quickly. LSU could have beat Bama deep all night with time to throw. Bama new we wouldn't have time to throw and took away short stuff. It was a jail break every snap on our ol
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:20 am to justustm2
If you don't see the difference between burrow and our last 4-4 QBs, then you have an agenda or perhaps there is some other reason? Hmmm
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:29 am to Tillmanscorner
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There isn't any scheme to coach around a porous OL
quick passes
constant misdirection and motion
short combo routes to attempt YAC
plenty of things you can do that LSU refused
instead we went with a vanilla running game and long-developing passing plays. exactly what you need to help an OL with issues
you think Washington State had as talent of an OL that LSU had this year? how did the put up major numbers? the scheme
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A good DC knows what few things there are to help mitigate the poor OL play...and he takes those away quickly.
have you followed CFB since the early 00s?
have you missed the impact that Mike Leach and his progeny have had on CFB? that's not true anymore
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LSU could have beat Bama deep all night with time to throw.
the problem was we did try to do this and we didn't have the OL or run game to try. yet it was our plan
Bama knew we couldn't, so they gave us the deep ball and played zone loading up on the first and second level and Ensminger couldn't adjust to a simple gameplan that he didn't expect. he was a deer in headlights and had no plan B and we got slaughtered
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
That's exactly what I said. It's not deer in headlights, if you can't block, a good defense and DC will take away what you would try if you can't block. Exactly what Bama did, take away short stuff. That's our problem every year, their dl hammers our OL. They couldn't do that to ga.
Lmao. I just read the rest of your post. Lmao at gimmick offenses against good to great d. On the Mike leach offense, I'm out of here to let you enjoy Xbox.
Lmao. I just read the rest of your post. Lmao at gimmick offenses against good to great d. On the Mike leach offense, I'm out of here to let you enjoy Xbox.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:36 am to Tillmanscorner
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It's not deer in headlights, if you can't block, a good defense and DC will take away what you would try if you can't block.
Bama gave us our gameplan and took away the rest because they knew how simple our offense was
E kept falling for the bait and didn't adjust
we didn't run short screens, combo routes, or use any misdirection. don't say we adjusted because we didn't do the simple things CFB has been doing for nearly 20 years to adjust to that very defense
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That's our problem every year,
the fact that we've refused to adapt to the modern offense is our problem every year. i agree
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:37 am to Tillmanscorner
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Lmao. I just read the rest of your post. Lmao at gimmick offenses against good to great d. On the Mike leach offense, I'm out of here to let you enjoy Xbox.
why are you criticizing the offense that Bama is running?
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