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re: Official Brice Turang Watch Thread - Updated - Friday @ 4pm Deadline

Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:33 pm to
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They can go 300k over the pool before getting any serious penalty. I think they just have to pay a huge tax if they do that


Don't they lose a draft pick next year if they go over by a certain amount? Or am I imagining that?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:34 pm to
More than 5% over, they lose a pick.
Posted by bubbz
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 4:47 pm to
From my understanding, no teams have ever gone over the 5% threshold. If Turang didn’t sign, Brewers would get #22 overall next year.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 4:49 pm to
Maybe Turang is watching the CWS right now. Ben and Chris are making their case as to why college baseball is good training ground for pro ball. Maybe, we can hope
Posted by Stephen1979
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:03 pm to
Would they need to do that to offer 3.7?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Maybe Turang is watching the CWS right now. Ben and Chris are making their case as to why college baseball is good training ground for pro ball. Maybe, we can hope


Came here to mention this. Did they say 70% of guys in the bigs played in college?

Sign out of high school if you want to be a professional. Go to college if you want to be a big leaguer.
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:34 pm to
If that 70% number is true that’s pretty incredible
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:39 pm to
A quick google search yielded that in 2012 the MLB had 968 players that were either American, Canadian, or Puerto Rican. Of those 968, 64% of them had attended college.
Posted by TigerStripes06
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:45 pm to
Well I read this and decided to do a little research just on the Astros. Gattis went to UT Permian Basin and Verlander went to Old Dominion. The Astros are just about 50/50 at a glance
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

A quick google search yielded that in 2012 the MLB had 968 players that were either American, Canadian, or Puerto Rican. Of those 968, 64% of them had attended college.




I think they said it was either this year’s or last year’s opening day roster. So, it trending up. Top 5 picks in this draft all we’re college guys.
Posted by coondaddy21
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:12 pm to
A lot more about baseball is learned in college. I played HS ball, Junior college ball and then to Birmingham Southern College. I learned something new at every level. When I got to BSC, I realized how much I didn't know about the fundamentals of the game. Leaving there, felt like I could coach the game at a very high level. This is something these kids that go straight from HS to the pro's don't get. Like first step drops as an outfielder, I see so many professionals taking bad first steps that lead them to running banana routs towards the ball. We did dirt ball reads which facilitated stealing a base for runners that weren't as fast. Reading pitchers and how they easily fall into patterns that allow you to take advantage when stealing a base. Nowadays colleges have more resources to help with breaking down swings, thus making you a better hitter. Most of these HS kids, if they make it to the big leagues, spends 3-5 years in the minors and therefore, if you're good enough, going to college may get you to the big leagues just as fast.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 6:16 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:17 pm to
You don't think he'd get developed with more games and unlimited practice time in a minor league system?
Posted by coondaddy21
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:19 pm to
It all depends if he gets a good coach. I am just basing it on my experience and my observations of some of the lack of fundamentals I see in the professional game today.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:01 pm to
Also I would bet that college guys spend less time in the minors. Look how fast Bregman, Dansby, and others spent in the minors. Sure that’s the top guys but that is the class that Turang would be in. He would be betting on himself. However, with that said I’m not sure how you turn down 3.5 million at 18. So......
Posted by TigerMikeX
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:03 pm to
I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of 1st round draft picks get to MLB that signed out of HS.
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:26 pm to
Don't know the validity of these stats. Seem to be from NCAA
Too lazy to look up more

quote:

High school senior players who go on to play NCAA men`s baseball: Less than three in 50, or 5.6 percent

-- NCAA senior players drafted by a Major League Baseball (MLB) team: Less than eleven in 100, or 10.5 percent.

-- High school senior players eventually drafted by an MLB team: About one in 200, or 0.5 percent. Drafted baseball players almost always go to a minor league team. These teams abound; there are over 150 of them, compared to 30 in the majors. The big leagues have 750 players, yet the 2004 draft alone took 1,500. Hence some estimate that only one in 33 minor leaguers ever makes it to the pros. If that's correct, the chance of a high school player making the big leagues is one in 6,600, or 0.015 percent. That's roughly the chance of a thief guessing your PIN number on the first try.




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Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:27 pm to
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I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of 1st round draft picks get to MLB that signed out of HS.



From 1996-2011 about 58% of high school first rounders made it to the bigs. About 75% of college first rounders made it to the bigs
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 8:29 pm
Posted by coondaddy21
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by WAR TIGER
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:55 pm to
That is good stats there
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 pm to
I want to say that those numbers are even more in favor of college players in recent years. Than 1996-2011.
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