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Offensive points per game (estimated) since 2011 - number and national ranking
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:25 pm
Since it's a bye week, a historical look at LSU football offensive production since 2011.
Year to date is only the third time in 15 seasons that offense has averaged fewer than 25 points per game.
Second year starting for some QBs was a big jump:
Mett +8.2
Burrow +13.3
Daniels +11.3
Worst offensive seasons were also fewest wins:
2014 - 8-5
2016 - 8-4
2017 - 9-4
2020 - 5-5 *tougher strength of schedule with 10 SEC games
2021 - 6-7
9-4 was best record when offensive points per game was 48th or lower.
Just a look back. We all know the trend is not good but hope it's not too late to turn it around.
Year / Off. Pts per game / National rank / (Head Coach / OC/playcaller / QB)
2011 - 30.1 - 27th (Miles, Studrawa, Lee / Jefferson)
2012 - 26.0 - 23rd (Miles, Studrawa, Mettenberger)
2013 - 34.2 - 20th (Miles, Cameron, Mettenberger)
2014 - 23.1 - 91st (Miles, Cameron, Jennings)
2015 - 31.3 - 38th (Miles, Cameron, Harris)
2016 - 27.2 - 58th (Miles / Orgeron, Cameron / Ensminger, Etling)
2017 - 25.3 - 70th (Orgeron, Canada, Etling)
2018 - 31.5 - 25th (Orgeron, Ensminger, Burrow)
2019 - 44.8 - 2nd (Orgeron, Brady, Burrow)
2020 - 28.5 - 48th (Orgeron, Ensminger, Brennan / Finley / Johnson)
2021 - 24.8 - 72nd (Orgeron, Peetz, Johnson)
2022 - 31.4 - 28th (Kelly, Denbrock, Daniels)
2023 - 42.7 - 1st (Kelly, Denbrock, Daniels)
2024 - 27.9 - 45th (Kelly, Sloan, Nussmeier)
2025 - 18.3 - 101st (Kelly, Sloan, Nussmeier)
Source - TeamRankings College Football Stats
Year to date is only the third time in 15 seasons that offense has averaged fewer than 25 points per game.
Second year starting for some QBs was a big jump:
Mett +8.2
Burrow +13.3
Daniels +11.3
Worst offensive seasons were also fewest wins:
2014 - 8-5
2016 - 8-4
2017 - 9-4
2020 - 5-5 *tougher strength of schedule with 10 SEC games
2021 - 6-7
9-4 was best record when offensive points per game was 48th or lower.
Just a look back. We all know the trend is not good but hope it's not too late to turn it around.
Year / Off. Pts per game / National rank / (Head Coach / OC/playcaller / QB)
2011 - 30.1 - 27th (Miles, Studrawa, Lee / Jefferson)
2012 - 26.0 - 23rd (Miles, Studrawa, Mettenberger)
2013 - 34.2 - 20th (Miles, Cameron, Mettenberger)
2014 - 23.1 - 91st (Miles, Cameron, Jennings)
2015 - 31.3 - 38th (Miles, Cameron, Harris)
2016 - 27.2 - 58th (Miles / Orgeron, Cameron / Ensminger, Etling)
2017 - 25.3 - 70th (Orgeron, Canada, Etling)
2018 - 31.5 - 25th (Orgeron, Ensminger, Burrow)
2019 - 44.8 - 2nd (Orgeron, Brady, Burrow)
2020 - 28.5 - 48th (Orgeron, Ensminger, Brennan / Finley / Johnson)
2021 - 24.8 - 72nd (Orgeron, Peetz, Johnson)
2022 - 31.4 - 28th (Kelly, Denbrock, Daniels)
2023 - 42.7 - 1st (Kelly, Denbrock, Daniels)
2024 - 27.9 - 45th (Kelly, Sloan, Nussmeier)
2025 - 18.3 - 101st (Kelly, Sloan, Nussmeier)
Source - TeamRankings College Football Stats
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 10:27 pm
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:32 pm to NorthEndZone
Picking up first downs at critical times and scoring points are important not how many yards the QB passes.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:37 pm to Batiger53
Yep.
Burrow kept drives alive with pinpoint passing and well-timed runs. Daniels did the same with accurate deep balls and uncanny scrambling ability. Mettenberger was underrated from a putting-up-points standpoint (although he had very good to great offensive talent like OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Jeremy Hill, Ware, and Blue on his two teams).
Burrow kept drives alive with pinpoint passing and well-timed runs. Daniels did the same with accurate deep balls and uncanny scrambling ability. Mettenberger was underrated from a putting-up-points standpoint (although he had very good to great offensive talent like OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Jeremy Hill, Ware, and Blue on his two teams).
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:45 pm to NorthEndZone
We've played five games, all with an injured quarterback. His health coming back will be a giant factor. This scenario is unique to the other examples
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:47 pm to Gonadballbarian
I hope you're right. I agree that the 45th to 101st decline with same coach/OC/QB is an anomaly. My concern is that the upcoming defenses faced will be as good and better than in the previous games.
History shows that the offense somehow needs to finish top 45-50-ish if the season will be what is expected at LSU.
History shows that the offense somehow needs to finish top 45-50-ish if the season will be what is expected at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 9:53 pm to NorthEndZone
In this case the quarterback actuallydeclined since last year. Terrible offensive line aside, I've already seen nuss play better. I've fully expect him to revert back to at least his former self.....if his health is truly affecting his game that is.
Which appears to be the case.
Which appears to be the case.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:42 pm to Gonadballbarian
quote:
We've played five games, all with an injured quarterback. His health coming back will be a giant factor
3 of the 5 games were against LaTech, SELU, and an Ole Miss defense near the bottom of the SEC. I assure you that if you think we will do better with defenses such as USCe, Vandy, Alabama, A&M, and Oklahoma on our schedule I want some of what you’re smoking.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 7:22 am to NorthEndZone
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2025 - 18.3 - 101st (Kelly, Sloan, Nussmeier)
Looks like team rankings updated, LSU is now 99th with 19.8. Ironically, tied with Clemson. Still pretty bad, though.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 7:28 am to Gonadballbarian
quote:
We've played five games, all with an injured quarterback. His health coming back will be a giant factor.
I remember when people on here were saying this before the Ole Miss game lol
Posted on 10/3/25 at 7:31 am to Batiger53
quote:
Picking up first downs at critical times and scoring points are important not how many yards the QB passes.
Yup. LSU was the best 3rd down team in the SEC last year and 6th in the country. This year they are 11th and 60th. They were the best team in the country and Nuss was the highest rated passer in the country on 3rd and 7 or more. He bailed them out on 3rd and long last year. It’s not happening this year.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 8:40 am to Gonadballbarian
quote:
We've played five games, all with an injured quarterback. His health coming back will be a giant factor. This scenario is unique to the other examples
But... but... Brian Kelly insists that Nuss is fine.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 10:03 am to NorthEndZone
quote:Had to be a group of 5 team to be #1 over the 2019 offense.
2019 - 44.8 - 2nd (Orgeron, Brady, Burrow)
Posted on 10/3/25 at 10:11 am to NorthEndZone
"I run 6 plays split veer. Like novocaine just give it time it always works."
Posted on 10/3/25 at 10:42 am to Gonadballbarian
quote:
We've played five games, all with an injured quarterback. His health coming back will be a giant factor. This scenario is unique to the other examples
Y'all really need to let go of this narrative. If he was hurt badly enough to cause him to play as terrible as he has, then he shouldn't be playing. Either way, the coaches should be deciding on what is best for the fricking team and not a singular player. At this point, they're hurting that player more by letting him play anyway, because he is absolutely tanking his draft stock this year. If they want to protect that, they should just run with the rumor of him being hurt and bench him for his own sake.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:00 am to Ironhead985
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quote:
2019 - 44.8 - 2nd (Orgeron, Brady, Burrow)
Had to be a group of 5 team to be #1 over the 2019 offense.
It was Ohio State. LSU had 47.2 to 46.9 for OSU in total points, but LSU scored more including defense and returns points which this offensive points stat does not include.
This post was edited on 10/3/25 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:17 am to koLSU86
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Either way, the coaches should be deciding on what is best for the fricking team and not a singular player.
the best thing for the team is to go to MVB and let nuss get healthy. he's hurting himself and the team at this point. it's tbh a very selfish look.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:24 am to IM_4_LSU
JT Curtis smiles.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:29 am to NorthEndZone
It’s simply inexcusable to be this bad on offense. Nuss should lose his starting position and Kelly/Sloan should lose their jobs. Why business would willingly pay someone this kind of money and get virtually last place results out of 100 competitors. Awful.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:02 pm to koLSU86
"Y'all really need to let go of this narrative. If he was hurt badly enough to cause him to play as terrible as he has, then he shouldn't be playing"
narrative? I didn't say he should or shouldn't be playing. If our coach thinks him limited is better than the back up, that's his decision. Nuss was hurt. Whether he's on the back end of it now, still hurt, or healed.
It's pretty obvious. It's just whether you think he's regressed or it's from an injury.
45th to 101st decline with same coach/OC/QB is an anomaly.
People are acting like they didn't watch Nuss play last year and can't tell the difference.
The only point I'm making is this situation is different than comparing all the other years of offenses that the OP is doing.
Because pur qb was hurt. That's unique to all of his other comparisons. It's an analyzation.
narrative? I didn't say he should or shouldn't be playing. If our coach thinks him limited is better than the back up, that's his decision. Nuss was hurt. Whether he's on the back end of it now, still hurt, or healed.
It's pretty obvious. It's just whether you think he's regressed or it's from an injury.
45th to 101st decline with same coach/OC/QB is an anomaly.
People are acting like they didn't watch Nuss play last year and can't tell the difference.
The only point I'm making is this situation is different than comparing all the other years of offenses that the OP is doing.
Because pur qb was hurt. That's unique to all of his other comparisons. It's an analyzation.
Posted on 10/3/25 at 3:10 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:
3 of the 5 games were against LaTech, SELU, and an Ole Miss defense near the bottom of the SEC. I assure you that if you think we will do better with defenses such as USCe, Vandy, Alabama, A&M, and Oklahoma on our schedule I want some of what you’re smoking.
Yes that's the whole point. Those three games. You really think Nuss played the best he could and that's just how he is? You don't think he was affected by an injury? Whether we DO better against Vandy Alabama A&M and Oklahoma? We need a healthy Nuss playing better.., so we have that chance to do better.
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