- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
2
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:04 am to DMY13
Hitting .135 can cost you runs too
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:08 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Hitting .135 can cost you runs too
If it's out of the 8 or 9 hole, I'd say a bad catcher probably costs more.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:09 am to Broski
quote:
If it's out of the 8 or 9 hole, I'd say a bad catcher probably costs more.
Is Neal a bad catcher?
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:20 am to DMY13
I understand Milazzo is regarded as a great defensive catcher, but is it possible we (as fans) are not as receptive to the possibility other catchers can get the job done defensively, because of how bad the previous catchers were?
In other words, could Neal be a pretty solid defensive catcher in his own right?
In other words, could Neal be a pretty solid defensive catcher in his own right?
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:21 am to Broski
If he were some type of unicorn defensively I’d entertain that idea but he’s not.
Even a guy like McManus (or the catcher spot as a whole : 16hr 585 Slg) last year, who wasn’t great defensively, more than made up for it offensively. Especially on a team that lacked offense
They likely created more runs than milazzo would have saved & created combined
Even a guy like McManus (or the catcher spot as a whole : 16hr 585 Slg) last year, who wasn’t great defensively, more than made up for it offensively. Especially on a team that lacked offense
They likely created more runs than milazzo would have saved & created combined
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:21 am to beauchristopher
quote:
In other words, could Neal be a pretty solid defensive catcher in his own right?
He could be, but it remains to be seen.
Regardless, it's always better to not have a catcher catch 3 straight days.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:36 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Hitting .135 can cost you runs too
Costing a run is way worse than not scoring a run. A C gives up 1 run, something we saw in multiple games last year, you have to score 2 to overcome it.
The defensive problem outweighs the offensive problem probably by a factor of 4.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:38 am to Lester Earl
Holy shite LE.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 8:56 am to Meauxjeaux
In a vacuum the defensive numbers on the catchers last year were bad. But they circumvented many of the issues. The worked around the passed balls for the most part, and opponents did not run on LSU much at all.
Optically it looked bad because they did not handle pitches well but overall did not bury the team like it could have.
The catchers afer Milazzo got hurt hit
16HR
45 RBI
.585 SLG %
46 R
121 TB
they basically gave you the production of Cade Doughty
Optically it looked bad because they did not handle pitches well but overall did not bury the team like it could have.
The catchers afer Milazzo got hurt hit
16HR
45 RBI
.585 SLG %
46 R
121 TB
they basically gave you the production of Cade Doughty
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:27 am to Lester Earl
Gosh I created a monster.
And to think people said this wasn't a concern or question.
And to think people said this wasn't a concern or question.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:59 am to fastlane
Nah, there are a lot of people brainwashed when it comes to milazzo. They’ve invented the idea that he can hit a productive .180
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:55 am to fastlane
There are going to be three catchers that are going to play. Milazzo, Neal, and Travinski. Milazzo is going to get a lot of playing time because of his defense. He will either be a late sub for defense in close games or he will be subbed out in games he starts where we need offense before his 3 appearance.
Johnson is going to find the right combination once the season is playing itself out. I still want to see him be the best bunter on the team to move people over and/or squeeze bunt for some runs.
Johnson is going to find the right combination once the season is playing itself out. I still want to see him be the best bunter on the team to move people over and/or squeeze bunt for some runs.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
quote:
They likely created more runs than milazzo would have saved & created combined
There’s not really a way to calculate this in a meaningful way. If McManus were to hit a 3 run bomb in a 12-1 win then later in the week allow a pass ball that leads to a run or 2 in a game that ends as a 3-2 loss, technically he created more runs than he cost but one was meaningful and one wasn’t. It’s also difficult to account for an inning that is extending because a pitcher is scared to throw a ball in the dirt with a runner on 3rd because the catcher can’t block it.
Both will play in different situations and I don’t know why everyone can’t just accept that.
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:07 pm to LSBoosie
There is a way to quantify it, it just isn’t tabulated in the college game and is not nearly as specific as your poor example. The data needs time to correct & is simply not as situational as that.
We do know from more comprehensive mlb data that elite defensive catchers that do not hit are barely worth 1 win above replacement during a good season.
We do know from more comprehensive mlb data that elite defensive catchers that do not hit are barely worth 1 win above replacement during a good season.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:25 pm to Lester Earl
war lol
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:33 pm to Meauxjeaux
I know Milazzo is good behind the plate. He will certainly play big innings and in big games this year...but the lineup today is my point.
Neal is going to be the workhorse with Milazzo being the fill guy and late inning guy.
Neal is going to be the workhorse with Milazzo being the fill guy and late inning guy.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:35 pm to fastlane
I bet You Milazzo plays tomorrow vs their lefty.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:38 pm to SammyTiger
I bet he will.
Page 5 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News