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re: O line gets pushed BACKWARDS on running plays.

Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15167 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:47 pm to
lol
Posted by AncientArousal
Member since Jul 2025
89 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:49 pm to
You can't blame Kelly for the o line not getting push and then not give him credit for having a dominating front 7.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14150 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:54 pm to
Zone blocking vs run blocking my man. Go back & listen Hester & Flynn break it down the Monday after Ole Miss. I promise these guys can push people off the bal but the zone blocking scheme isn’t designed for that.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7605 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:00 pm to
It really doesn't take much to be an upgrade over mubenga. Curne should be at LF if not at RT. We have so many weak links, they like take turns blowing their assignment.
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1716 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:46 pm to
Watch the game. Line gave up 0 sacks and rushed for 170. It was their best game vs an elite front 7. Yall guys are miserable
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:51 pm to
the ol has sucked more and more the further removed we are from moffitt imo
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88462 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:06 pm to
my bad the 18.6 may have referenced something else on team rankings
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5334 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

2 weeks of prep to only score 20! at home! against south cackalackey.


You scored 20 because of turnovers and Nuss fumbling on the QB sneak. Sloan dialed up well over 30 points in that game. Hes been bad but last night he was actually pretty good. Him and the OL were a pleasant surprise.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88462 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:12 pm to
woulda coulda shoulda
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
1897 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:10 am to
Thanks for this monologue Fatso. Here's an old, time weathered saying; "you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shite". No disrespect to Nuss personally but the QB Nuss is part of the chicken shite. QB is where the whole offense starts. Every play called is designed to get yardage. The plays you call are designed by what you see in practice and video reviews. Sloan is hampered by a chicken shite QB and an inexperienced banged up OL. Fricking Bill Walsh would struggle with play calling our offense. Sloan doesn't fumble on the 1 yd line, Sloan doesn't miss blocks by the guards and tackles, Sloan doesn't throw interceptions, Sloan doesn't drop passes, Sloan doesn't panic in the pocket and rolls into sacks, Sloan doesn't refuse to run when there is a wide open field to get a first down and keep a drive going, and finally Sloan doesn't have the authority to replace Nuss with MVB.

Take your little meaningless numbers and charts and shove em. We are 5-1 # 10 in the nation because of BK spending very wisely on getting a great defense and Sloan doing the best he can with the shitety hand he's been dealt. My opinions are based on playing high school and college football. This doesn't make me a Vince Lombardi but gives me a little edge when watching college football.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:15 am to
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How is this even physically possible? Either our technique is terrible, or the S&C coach should be canned.


It's technique. Low man wins. LSU lineman are always the high man.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51778 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:24 am to
I’m far from an expert, but this OP shows a lack of understanding of LSU’s offense. They are not getting pushed back because of strength issues or technique. It is due to the scheme. LSU’s scheme is based around the passing game, and the running game is meant to exploit the pass rush creating gaps and lanes. So the defenders in the backfield on running plays is not due to failures, it is by design. The offensive linemen are supposed to influence pass rushers, who are using techniques like twist and stunts, to create lanes. When it works properly the RB will shoot through a lane that might start two yards in the backfield. It’s designed to produce big plays in the running game, as it did for the first time this season against USCe.

IMO, LSU’s problem is that teams are not having to commit extra players to the pass rush. This leaves them with LBers waiting to clean up these lanes. Our linemen are getting better, but we still have a RT who gets beat so badly that plays get blown up before the RB can find a lane. Also, we only have one RB who has the vision for it - maybe two if you count JuJuan Johnson.

The problems in the running game will go away as the passing game gets better and the pass blocking gets better. Once the passing game starts clicking the running game won’t be far behind, I think. But the RT has GOT to get better.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17028 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:41 am to
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Since Kelly arrived, we can't make a yard if the game depended on it, but its Nuss' fault.
Interesting to see how many rushing yards his teams has accumulated, if we subtract Daniels' rushing yards.


Subtracting Daniels's rushing attempts;
2023: 295 carries, 1525 yards; 5.2 ypc
2022: 331 carries, 1687 yards; 5.1 ypc

Other years (subtracting Most QB yards/sacks)
2025: 158 carries, 677 yards, 4.3 ypc
2024: 339 carries, 1551 yards, 4.6 ypc

2021: 351 carries, 1508 yards, 4.3 ypc
2020: 265 carries, 1100 yards, 4.2 ypc

2016: 491 carries, 2571 yards, 5.2 ypc
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88462 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:31 pm to
take out the SELU game anomaly and we only average 19.8 points a game.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

We actually lost 2 fricking yards on a QB sneak. Has that happened ever in the game of football?


Happens quite often on a fumble. Oftentimes the outcome is even more disastrous.

Still can't figure out how an isolation throw to Tray'dez Green doesn't get tried at least once with three shots at it. I know we're trying to kill clock and burn their timeouts, but that play either works or draws a PI flag well over half the time. And PI flag seals the game even more than a TD would!

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:40 pm to
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woulda coulda shoulda


Won. Bitching about style points is the ultimate "woulda coulda shoulda". The job is to win games, and we won. If you're going to dig deeper for shite to bitch about, and then ignore every single positive, then you're just whining to be a whiner.

Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
293 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:43 pm to
Only for us to be hamstrung by our downfield passing game. It would be an entirely different set of offensive problems that we would have with Les.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

take out the SELU


This is hilarious from the "coulda woulda shoulda" guy.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71159 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

This team under Les Miles would be wrecking everyone.

this team under Les Miles would be struggling to score just like he struggled to score for the better part of his last 5 years on the job. I swear, some of y'all get tired of one coach and then get amnesia for anything else that occurred prior to that coach. It's like everyone has forgotten how agonizing it was watching us play football at the end of his time here and how many struggle wins we had with a good defense against nearly everyone.

Maybe I can jog your memory a little bit

2012
LSU 38 Towson 22
LSU 12 Auburn (3-9) 10
LSU 24 Texas A&M 19
LSU 23 USC 21
LSU 41 Ole Miss 35
LSU 20 Arkansas (4-8) 13
Clemson 25 LSU 24

2013
LSU 17 Florida (4-8) 6
Ole Miss (6-6) 27 LSU 24
Alabama 38 LSU 17
LSU 31 Arkansas 27
LSU 21 Iowa 14

2014
LSU 28 Wisconsin 24
Miss State 34 LSU 29
Auburn 41 LSU 7
LSU 10 Ole Miss 7
Alabama 20 LSU 13
Arkansas 17 LSU 0
LSU 23 Texas A&M 17

2015
LSU 21 Miss State 19
LSU 34 Syracuse 24
LSU 35 Florida 28
Alabama 30 LSU 16
Arkansas 31 LSU 14
Ole Miss 38 LSU 17
LSU 19 Texas A&M 7

2016
Wisconsin 16 LSU 14
LSU 34 Jacksonville St 13
LSU 23 Miss State 20
Auburn 18 LSU 13


We weren't dominating shite at the end of Miles' time here, which is why he got fired like everyone wanted. Now, apparently, people have created some alternate reality where we beat the shite out of everyone while he was here. I didn't even bring up the 2008-2010 seasons but am happy to if you'd like.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4454 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
This is a big problem for Davis most of the linemen. Chester does the same thing. That’s poor technique and total lack of discipline. It’s also a mindset and most them don’t have it.
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