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re: Nuss arm talent? Best since when?
Posted on 8/10/24 at 6:43 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 8/10/24 at 6:43 pm to Lester Earl
Opinions like arse holes. Aaron Rodgers wasn't perfect in college and continued to develop well into his NFL career. Im just saying Nuss has the tools to be that guy
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 6:45 pm
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 6:54 pm to AZTiger7072
Burrow + Brees + Tebow + Fournette + Reggie Bush = Nuss
In all seriousness he'll probably be like Mett but more mobile
In all seriousness he'll probably be like Mett but more mobile
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:00 pm to BlackAngus
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I got a million downvotes when I said Nuss reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.
The Favre comparison was right there for you!
Throwing motion and playing style is way more Favre than Rodgers.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:03 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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You believe he is ahead of 2 Heisman winners?
Just on arm liveness? Absolutely
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:05 pm to dukke v
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You think Nuss is in the same zip code
Would you bet that Nuss won't have better stats, in his first year as a starter, than Burrow and or Daniels?
Just curious.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:22 pm to dukke v
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Arm strength has a lot more to it than just flinging it downfield
You and the OP are confusing your terms. OP said Arm Talent but in a later post says arm strength. Arm strength is, in fact, simply flinging it down the field. Arm talent is so much more than that.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:27 pm to BlackAngus
Rogers doesn’t have a gunslinger mentality
The best thing about him as a QB is his low Int rate.
The best thing about him as a QB is his low Int rate.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:34 pm to SammyTiger
By arm talent I mean the co
No or strength and accuracy…. I believe that at a first year starter, Nuss has better arm talent than both Heisman winners before him. Doesn’t mean I believe him to be in their ball park for talent. But just judging arm and ability to hit throws. I think he is the best of the three.
No or strength and accuracy…. I believe that at a first year starter, Nuss has better arm talent than both Heisman winners before him. Doesn’t mean I believe him to be in their ball park for talent. But just judging arm and ability to hit throws. I think he is the best of the three.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:39 pm to shutterspeed
I know he’s not well thought of around here, but Brandon Harris had a cannon.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:40 pm to Ironhead985
Another good response. Again the point of the thread. I think B Harris could sling it
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:47 pm to SammyTiger
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Rogers doesn’t have a gunslinger mentality
The best thing about him as a QB is his low Int rate.
right on
kind of shocking how many people mess that up
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:49 pm to Gus007
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Would you bet that Nuss won't have better stats, in his first year as a starter, than Burrow and or Daniels?
Just curious.
It’s an interesting point, considering our memories of both guys are mainly based on their final years.
Out of curiosity I took a look at the LSU record books to see where their first seasons ranked.
LSU Single-Season Standings:
Burrow 2018
Attempts - #3 (379)
Completions - #7 (219)
Completion percentage - NR (57.8%)
Pass efficiency - NR (133.2)
Pass yards - #7 (2,894)
Touchdown passes - NR (16)
Yards per game - #8 (222.6)
Daniels 2022
Attempts - #2 (388)
Completions - #2 (266)
Completion percentage - #3 (68.6%)
Pass efficiency - #10 (144.5)
Pass yards - #6 (2,913)
Touchdown passes - NR (17)
Yards per game - NR (208.1)
Unfortunately it gets pretty tough to compare historical quarterbacks because the game has changed so much. Both guys are in the top 10 all-time for a bunch of stats, but they’re also #2 and #3 all-time for attempts. Also, somewhat annoyingly, the LSU record book doesn’t list single-season yards per attempt (only single-game).
So I also looked at each QB’s SEC rankings in their first year.
SEC Rankings:
Burrow 2018
Attempts - #6 (379)
Completions - #8 (219)
Completion percentage - #11 (57.8%)
Pass efficiency - #12 (133.2)
Pass yards - #7 (2,894)
Touchdown passes - #11 (16)
Yards per game - #7 (222.6)
Yards per attempt - #10 (7.6)
Daniels 2022
Attempts - #4 (388)
Completions - #3 (266)
Completion percentage - #2 (68.6%)
Pass efficiency - #6 (144.5)
Pass yards - #7 (2,913)
Touchdown passes - #9 (17)
Yards per game - #11 (208.1)
Yards per attempt - #9 (7.5)
Both were basically middle-of-the-pack in the conference. Daniels’ numbers were a bit better compared to the conference but I think at least some of that can probably be attributed to a combination of scheme and continuity on the OL - recall that we had a revolving door in OL in 2018 due to injuries and wound up having to run a bunch of max protect.
In any case I think one reasonable way to look at the question is to ask whether Nussmeier will be in the top half of SEC quarterbacks this year. Personally, I would hope so. I think he’s going to have to be in that range if we are going to have any success, unless our running game just becomes dominant (which, to be honest, wouldn’t necessarily be shocking).
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:03 pm to AZTiger7072
He’s Baker Mayfield with a stronger arm.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:46 pm to AZTiger7072
Let’s maybe wait to see what Nuss does when the games actually matter before we put him ahead of 2 heisman winners. Daniels has a hell of an arm. Such a natural thrower of the ball
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:59 pm to AZTiger7072
We have an awesome QB.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:00 pm to lostinbr
Burrow and Nuss will have similar experience as first time starters.
Daniels had three years as a starter prior to entering LSU.
Daniels had three years as a starter prior to entering LSU.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:10 pm to AZTiger7072
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I know Nuss is gonna throw pics and will not be as efficient as Burrow or Daniels
Burrow or Daniels weren't that efficient either until their final seasons. He will have a learning curve, but he has an NFL arm and is football smart and mobile enough to avoid pressure and run on occasion. I feel like he will be a star and probably an even better NFL QB.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:11 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
he definitely has a stronger arm than either of them.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:14 pm to Ironhead985
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Brandon Harris had a cannon.
and couldn't hit the side of a barn. But, it still isn't on level with Nuss.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:02 pm to AZTiger7072
Bert Jones and JaMarcus Russell. I haven’t seen an arm like that at LSU besides these two.
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