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re: Notre Dame Tight End Michael Mayer on differences between Kelly vs Freeman

Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by mikecno
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
1764 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:20 pm to
Thanks for sharing...but they haven't really played for him yet in a regular season. Seems like there jumping the gun a bit
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:22 pm to
Notre Dame is coming off of one of their best seasons ever in 2021 with 11 regular season wins.

LSU is coming off of one of their worst seasons in recent history with a 6-6 record in the regular season.

I don't care what Michael Mayer says, there is a good chance LSU wins more games this season than Notre Dame.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32073 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:25 pm to
Just different styles.

Kelly is older, MUCH more expereinced, and has the gravitas to be more of the "CEO" type coach. Freeman is much younger, unproven, but eager to establish himself as a HC.

Ultimately respect will come down to results. There is a guy in Tuscaloosa who I doubt is "hanging with the boys". People still line up to play for him because he has the skins on the wall to do things his way. Kelly doesn't need to prove to his team he CAN be successful. He can just point to his resume. Freeman can't at the moment. He has to prove it to his team.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75437 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:30 pm to
I’m sure Freeman is more fun than Kelly. But we just had a fun coach.

Maybe they need some fun and we need a dad who can build the program.

Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
12438 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:33 pm to
Everyone is happy and optimistic and everything is better than last season before they start playing games. I watched the Fiesta Bowl and at times Freeman looked in over his head.
Posted by Corby
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2021
79 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:35 pm to
Thats a great clip, like seeing three football players from three different schools shooting the Shite, and busting balls, so little of it has anything to do about Kelly or Freeman, you all should watch the whole thing.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
30975 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:38 pm to
OU fans and players are saying the same thing about Venables and how a 0-0 career coach is 10x better than Lincoln Riley.

Its what happens when you're dumped by the hot girl and tell yourself the new girl is better.

Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14536 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:43 pm to
With a team built by Kelly with all the structure in place Freeman can come in and just be Rah-Rah. He’ll win off of Kelly’s structure like Miles did. In 3 years it will be all up to him.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13557 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:45 pm to
Kinda like how students like a substitute teacher more than the regular teacher because the substitute teacher lets them play on their phone
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
10020 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:47 pm to
Lmao. You have terrible takes.
Posted by LSU_connoisseur
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2022
795 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:51 pm to
I'm sure he's real objective. Kelly's record speaks for itself so he can suck it
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25257 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

quote:
I remember the players at LSU Liked and were Happier playing for Coach O over Coach Miles too



Fair point

At the time though, LSU immediately improved that year when he took over for Les. It was after the NC that it all went to shite.

Players never seem to know what's best for them though. They generally like the coaches that go easier on them, but those coaches usually don't get the results that everyone desires. Freeman seems like a good guy and a great recruiter, but so far he is 0-1 with ND's biggest blown lead ever in a bowl.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19275 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:03 pm to
I believe Coach Kelly will be hugely successful here and I also think Freeman will be successful at ND. I hope we get the chance to whip them in a playoff game soon.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12025 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Freeman the players coach. No head coaching experience. Got it
Kelly won the most games ever at ND. That's incredible.
Freeman has won zero games (he blew a 28-7 lead in his first game).
Over/Under of him winning more games than Kelly at ND.... I'll take the under.

Kelly beat LSU twice while at ND, with ND talent.
Freeman better hope he never faces Kelly armed with LSU talent.
quote:

"It is better to be feared than to be loved, if one cannot be both."
I'd rather the guy that pushes his team to the edge over the guy that is friends with them.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25412 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

sounds like the players at ND are all happier to play for Freeman vs Kelly.



Yeah until Ohio State drills that arse because they arent prepared.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3229 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:19 pm to
If he’d had sentiments less than supportive of Freeman, he’d be in the portal. What would you expect him to say?
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
1202 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:23 pm to
Coach eaux says hey I'll be in Destin when they let you go, Come see me. LOL
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61211 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

On one hand, O won 1 championship more than he should have. On the other, Miles won 2 fewer.


I’m not commenting on any specific coach, but this is dumb as frick. There is no “should” when it comes to winning national championships. No matter the sport or the roster, it’s hard as frick to do. Nick Saban’s complete outlier has warped people’s expectation to where they have retarded takes like this.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92520 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

retarded takes


Like the one that has O not being a championship caliber coach? (He isn't. He is a product, not the cause, of the "Joe Burrow miracle".)

Or that Les should have won championships in 2006 and 2011?

(He should have.)
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61211 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Like the one that has O not being a championship caliber coach? (He isn't. He is a product, not the cause, of the "Joe Burrow miracle".)

Or that Les should have won championships in 2006 and 2011?

(He should have.)


Yes, both of those takes are fricking retarded. There’s a huge difference between “could” and “should.” You’ve already made up your mind on O having nothing to with ‘19 (which is retarded, but pretty common on here, stupid as it is), so there’s no attempting to change it. But Florida was pretty fricking good in ‘06. And Alabama was an all-time team in ‘11. We “could” have won either or both of those years. But “should” have? Nah. That’s not how sports work.
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