- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: NOLA.com (Times Pic) calls on Les Miles to deal with Jeremy Hill....
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:39 am to Fububutsy
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:39 am to Fububutsy
Since the tp went to online majority of the time their reporting has gone the way of Tmz
I'll pass. It's a sham what journalism has become, a real sham
I'll pass. It's a sham what journalism has become, a real sham
0
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:42 am to DrD
quote:
Miles has got to learn to recruit quality kids and not those that get in trouble with law enforcement.
So if Hill ebded up at bama, tm7 at utenn and rp at ut. Youd be happy he didnt recruit them? 3 of the states best players over his tenure?
This place was up in arms when jackson went to a diff school.
Get out of here you hypocrite.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 7:45 am
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:51 am to LSURussian
Let the kids do whatever they want and just blame it on their age and hormones. They're football players and should be able to get away with anything. Who cares about the consequences of their actions as long as they win games.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:54 am to dgnx6
What do you think his punishment from CLM will be?
After all is said and done, I think he gets a game or two and has some Moffitt Milestones to hit before they tell us he is fully reinstated.
Maybe he takes the UF, Bama, or UGA route: Suspend players for the first half only to have their fresh legs for the second.
After all is said and done, I think he gets a game or two and has some Moffitt Milestones to hit before they tell us he is fully reinstated.
Maybe he takes the UF, Bama, or UGA route: Suspend players for the first half only to have their fresh legs for the second.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 7:56 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:
Let the kids do whatever they want and just blame it on their age and hormones. They're football players and should be able to get away with anything. Who cares about the consequences of their actions as long as they win games
Or we can overreact and kick the kid to the curb without ever talking to him or knowing the events from that night.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:15 am to ellessuuuu
quote:
Actually, most adult (over 30 years old) LSU alums probably agree with this observation. I know I do. The off the field problems are getting obnoxious, it is pretty clear that there is a general lack of discipline within the program.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:16 am to EarthwormJim
quote:
Or we can overreact and kick the kid to the curb without ever talking to him or knowing the events from that night.
At a bar after 2am while on probation isnt showing very good decision making. Although this is technically his first "strike" while at LSU right? He's safe. Might miss a few game (Miles has to set an example).
He'll be on a very short leash.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:29 am to LuzianaFootball
quote:
What do you think his punishment from CLM will be?
I predict that Hill will be suspended until / if Blue gets injured.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:40 am to PlanoPrivateer
Nola.com = the Glen Gilblow of new orleans.
There is a lot of distaste in the nola area for LSU. Not saying nola doesnt have LSU fans, because there are plenty. But the media there has never been lsu friendly. They usually put out the smear pieces, and put just enough positives in to keep that portion of diehard new orleanians on their side.
Im not clicking on the article, because just like Glenn, thats what keeps them writing trash, but the bottom line is, Nola.com shouldnt have any opinion on what Miles should do with his players. Go write a story on the abysmal Hornets team.
There is a lot of distaste in the nola area for LSU. Not saying nola doesnt have LSU fans, because there are plenty. But the media there has never been lsu friendly. They usually put out the smear pieces, and put just enough positives in to keep that portion of diehard new orleanians on their side.
Im not clicking on the article, because just like Glenn, thats what keeps them writing trash, but the bottom line is, Nola.com shouldnt have any opinion on what Miles should do with his players. Go write a story on the abysmal Hornets team.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 8:51 am to BobBoucher
We need to let the kid have his day in court. It would be nice to see our school clean up some of these off the field issues.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:05 am to ellessuuuu
If this happened at Bama u would not have even heard about it. But if it was reported nothing would happen because the Sec. loves them some Satan!!! 
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:13 am to ellessuuuu
quote:
Really don't need to know too many facts to make that observation.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:16 am to notiger1997
quote:No that would discourage the wonderful practice of bar room brawling that is fast becoming the off-season and off-field conditioning exercise of choice for many LSU football stars.
Nah, lets not read the article and see that he just might have made a few good points
I think Jeff Duncan has his nerve, pointing out in his column something that is very, very true...
quote:Black eye? I mean some of our pro-brawling fans would consider it a step up for LSU if our team started brawling even more regularly; maybe on-field brawls at Tiger Stadium provoked by LSU players could bring the "fear of death" back into Death Valley for visiting teams.
he (Hill) embarrassed the program. The last thing LSU needed in the wake of the Jordan Jefferson, Tyrann Mathieu, Tharold Simon incidents was another black eye, much less one from its best player. These things don't happen in a vacuum. Each arrest causes untold collateral damage to the program's reputation.
quote:And then he had to go draw up some fairly recent comparisons... but left out the Miami "Thug U" Hurricanes of yore.
But it's a slippery slope. The descent from dominance to downtrodden can be precipitous. In Urban Meyer's first five seasons at Florida, the Gators went 57-10 and won two BCS titles. But as the wins mounted, so, too, did the off-field incidents. By 2010, the program had spun out of control. Approximately 30 players were arrested in Meyer's six seasons. Meyer resigned after an 8-5 season in 2010. A year later, Florida went 3-5 in the SEC and was unranked. Mighty Southern Cal experienced a similarly meteoric rise and fall in the Pete Carroll era. It can happen.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:28 am to Charter n Coke
quote:
There is a lot of distaste in the nola area for LSU. Not saying nola doesnt have LSU fans, because there are plenty. But the media there has never been lsu friendly. They usually put out the smear pieces, and put just enough positives in to keep that portion of diehard new orleanians on their side.
Oh please, get out of here with this lame high school shite.
The T-P and new orleans in general support the hell out of LSU. I would say that the T-P does a better job in general of covering LSU than the Advocate and def. has better writers.
It's ashame that nobody on the Advocate's staff has the balls to write something every now and then that may rock the boat a little. I'm sure the gang is worried they might not be able to show up to get their free lunches at the media gatherings.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:34 am to ellessuuuu
quote:
The original charge against Hill, prior to being pled down, was sexual assault,
Oral battery
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:42 am to notiger1997
quote:
notiger1997
Yeah you arent the diehard new orleanian I was talking about
Posted on 5/8/13 at 9:55 am to TIGRLEE
quote:
TIGRLEE
Should of known you would agree, course you are a tard so makes sense..
Posted on 5/8/13 at 10:10 am to notiger1997
I get one very good point from the article (despite disagreeing with some others) and that is Hill is undoubtedly guilty of some "bad judgement" and that Les should do something to reinforce Hill needs to exercise better judgement.
The level of severity needs to be enough that Hill gets the message, and I think one LES MILES is in the beat situation to know this.
I've pointed out a few times, and it bears repeating, that Hill's prior transgressions happened before LSU, so from the program standpoint he shouldn't be considered a "repeat offender". But I'd also venture to guess that coming into LSU with that baggage, he was probably told ahead of time he would be held to a little higher standard.
It also seems that folks are too polarized on this issue...halfway between the "omg he is evil because he was arrested twice he must be a thug" and "it's ok he's a college student and boys will be boys". The reality is probably somewhere in between. Hill's had at least these two incidents, so it needs to be addressed. But while he did something wrong in both legally, there are some mitigating circumstances and it doesn't make him some violent thug or rapist.
Just my .02
The level of severity needs to be enough that Hill gets the message, and I think one LES MILES is in the beat situation to know this.
I've pointed out a few times, and it bears repeating, that Hill's prior transgressions happened before LSU, so from the program standpoint he shouldn't be considered a "repeat offender". But I'd also venture to guess that coming into LSU with that baggage, he was probably told ahead of time he would be held to a little higher standard.
It also seems that folks are too polarized on this issue...halfway between the "omg he is evil because he was arrested twice he must be a thug" and "it's ok he's a college student and boys will be boys". The reality is probably somewhere in between. Hill's had at least these two incidents, so it needs to be addressed. But while he did something wrong in both legally, there are some mitigating circumstances and it doesn't make him some violent thug or rapist.
Just my .02
Posted on 5/8/13 at 10:37 am to lsusa
quote:Maybe not. But the choices as to what behavior a person chooses to employ (or not) are what, in time, will make or break him.
it doesn't make him some violent thug or rapist.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:15 am to JawjaTigah
Yes, over a period of time bad choices can come to define a person.
However, at least based on what is known publicly, while Hill's behavior cannot and should not be excused, some of the things are typical with other males of his age group and usually, at least, behavior that is grown out of. It may not be "right" but a lot of seniors get blow jobs from freshman, a lot of 20 year old college students go to a bar and things escalate and they take a swing at someone....and it doesn't always lead to a life of violent crime.
My point is, being fixated on either the "boys will be boys" or "he's a thug" position is wrong, and quite dumb.
However, at least based on what is known publicly, while Hill's behavior cannot and should not be excused, some of the things are typical with other males of his age group and usually, at least, behavior that is grown out of. It may not be "right" but a lot of seniors get blow jobs from freshman, a lot of 20 year old college students go to a bar and things escalate and they take a swing at someone....and it doesn't always lead to a life of violent crime.
My point is, being fixated on either the "boys will be boys" or "he's a thug" position is wrong, and quite dumb.
Page 5 of 8
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News