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No. 1 Seeds are 2-33 at winning CWS Title
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:03 pm
Just fyi
I’m fine with us not being the number one seed. It’s a rarity for the top seed to win it all. Fun fact, LSU has never won a title as the top seed
I’m fine with us not being the number one seed. It’s a rarity for the top seed to win it all. Fun fact, LSU has never won a title as the top seed
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:06 pm to tadelatt
Being #1 never bothered good UConn Womens basketball or Oklahoma softball teams. They just kicked a$$ every week. It’s called mental toughness. You either got it or you dont.
And John Wooden and UCLA were
not bothered by it…
And John Wooden and UCLA were
not bothered by it…
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:08 pm to doya2
quote:
Being #1 never bothered good UConn Womens basketball or Oklahoma softball teams. They just kicked a$$ every week. It’s called mental toughness. You either got it or you dont.
Women’s basketball and softball are not known for having a great deal of parity
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:09 pm to doya2
Now name a men’s college baseball team that wasn’t bothered by it since this is a baseball topic.
Hurry, don’t look it up.
Hurry, don’t look it up.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:10 pm to tadelatt
Correlation does not equal causation. It is simply the fact that baseball has a ton a parity. #1 is not that much better than #10 on a given day.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:11 pm to tadelatt
quote:
Fun fact, LSU has never won a title as the top seed
I don't see how this is "fun", but I agree with your point
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:12 pm to tadelatt
It’s just odds man
Basically, would you take one single team or the field on a given year?
Basically, would you take one single team or the field on a given year?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:13 pm to tadelatt
since 1999 here are the numbers by seed
SEED CWS APPEARANCES CWS TITLES
1 14 1
2 16 3
3 15 2
4 11 1
5 13 2
6 11 0
7 11 0
8 11 0
TOTAL: 102 9
So no seed is great at winning it all. I believe it is 23 years total(99-22 but 2020 was canceled dur to Covid)
So even as any seed you are just about 50%(just above for top 3 seeds) to even make the CWS. And then have a very small chance of winning out of those appearances. The CWS is just not setup to find the best team. It is setup to find the hottest team during that week and a half.
SEED CWS APPEARANCES CWS TITLES
1 14 1
2 16 3
3 15 2
4 11 1
5 13 2
6 11 0
7 11 0
8 11 0
TOTAL: 102 9
So no seed is great at winning it all. I believe it is 23 years total(99-22 but 2020 was canceled dur to Covid)
So even as any seed you are just about 50%(just above for top 3 seeds) to even make the CWS. And then have a very small chance of winning out of those appearances. The CWS is just not setup to find the best team. It is setup to find the hottest team during that week and a half.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:13 pm to doya2
quote:
Being #1 never bothered good UConn Womens basketball or Oklahoma softball teams.
Not uh, the same sport.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:22 pm to tadelatt
What's LSU'S CWS record after winning or losing the SEC Tournament? Do they try to win it, or should they try to get eliminated early? How have other SEC Tournament winners fared in the past when it comes to Omaha? These things are important.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:32 pm to tadelatt
What are #2 seeds? 3,4,5.....
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:53 pm to tadelatt
2022: Ole Miss (NR, 3-seed in #6 Miami Regional)
2021: Mississippi State (7)
2019: Vandy (2)
2018: Oregon State (3)
2017: Florida (3)
2016: Coastal Carolina (NR, 2-seed in NC State Regional paired with #8 LSU)
2015: Virginia (NR, 3-seed in UCSB Regional paired with #1 UCLA)
2014: Vandy (NR, Regional host paired with #4 Indiana)
2013: UCLA (NR, Regional host paired with #5 Cal State Fullerton)
2012: Arizona (NR, Regional host paired with #6 North Carolina)
2011: South Carolina (4)
2010: South Carolina (NR, Regional host, paired with #4 Coastal Carolina)
2009: LSU (3)
2008: Fresno State (NR, 4-seed in Long Beach State Regional, paired with #3 Arizona State)
2007: Oregon State (NR, 3-seed in Virginia Regional, paired with #1 Vandy)
2006: Oregon State (NR, Regional host, paired with #3 Texas)
2005: Texas (NR, Regional host, paired with #5 Ole Miss)
2004: Cal State Fullerton (NR, 2-seed at #7 Arizona State regional)
2003: Rice (5)
2002: Texas (5)
So, in the past 20 seasons:
#1: 0
#2: 1
#3: 3
#4: 1
#5: 2
#6: 0
#7: 1
#8: 0
Regional Host: 6
Non-regional Host: 6
Just goes to show that anything can happen. Recent trend says the best spot is in the #2,3,6,7 side of the bracket.
2021: Mississippi State (7)
2019: Vandy (2)
2018: Oregon State (3)
2017: Florida (3)
2016: Coastal Carolina (NR, 2-seed in NC State Regional paired with #8 LSU)
2015: Virginia (NR, 3-seed in UCSB Regional paired with #1 UCLA)
2014: Vandy (NR, Regional host paired with #4 Indiana)
2013: UCLA (NR, Regional host paired with #5 Cal State Fullerton)
2012: Arizona (NR, Regional host paired with #6 North Carolina)
2011: South Carolina (4)
2010: South Carolina (NR, Regional host, paired with #4 Coastal Carolina)
2009: LSU (3)
2008: Fresno State (NR, 4-seed in Long Beach State Regional, paired with #3 Arizona State)
2007: Oregon State (NR, 3-seed in Virginia Regional, paired with #1 Vandy)
2006: Oregon State (NR, Regional host, paired with #3 Texas)
2005: Texas (NR, Regional host, paired with #5 Ole Miss)
2004: Cal State Fullerton (NR, 2-seed at #7 Arizona State regional)
2003: Rice (5)
2002: Texas (5)
So, in the past 20 seasons:
#1: 0
#2: 1
#3: 3
#4: 1
#5: 2
#6: 0
#7: 1
#8: 0
Regional Host: 6
Non-regional Host: 6
Just goes to show that anything can happen. Recent trend says the best spot is in the #2,3,6,7 side of the bracket.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:56 pm to Tigers0918
Just imagine how furious Wake Forest fans are today.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:58 pm to doya2
quote:
Being #1 never bothered good UConn Womens basketball or Oklahoma softball teams. They just kicked a$$ every week. It’s called mental toughness. You either got it or you dont.
He literally gave you the stat for baseball!
quote:
No. 1 Seeds are 2-33 at winning CWS Title
So you are saying all 33 didn't have mental toughness?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:03 pm to tadelatt
It shows that the teams that make it to Omaha are all pretty even.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:13 pm to Tigers0918
quote:
SEED CWS APPEARANCES CWS TITLES
1 14 1
2 16 3
3 15 2
4 11 1
5 13 2
6 11 0
7 11 0
8 11 0
TOTAL: 102 9
So in 23 seasons, the national seeds have won 9 CWS. Just shows that baseball is more about the hottest team than the best team.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:26 pm to tadelatt
#2 seeds have won 5 national titles FWIW.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:09 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:
the best spot is
Don't be ridiculous. There is no best spot. These are entirely different teams playing entirely different competition.
There's probably just as much correlation with uniform color or number of letters in the last name of the lead off hitter as there is with what seed you are.
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