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re: NIT Bid possibility
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:09 am to burreauxxx
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:09 am to burreauxxx
I mean if everything falls the way it's expected to ,we get one of the auto sec bids. That's just how it's set up. They take the top two teams that aren't in the car tournament and they only have 3 teams not making the ncaa tournament and we have a better record than one team and beat them head to head
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:22 am to Tigerpride18
You don’t know how teams are evaluated when it comes to selection my baw
Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:25 am to JerryTheKingBawler
Well win the NIT and reward him with an extension.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:03 am to Darth Aranda
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You don’t know how teams are evaluated when it comes to selection my baw
They're evaluated by a metric they invented recently called knit, read the whole thread.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 6:04 am
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:33 am to Tigerpride18
Based on the information we have from the NIT updated for 2025, they use the following to determine their "KNIT" rankings.
This does not specify if any of the individual rankings are weighted in any format. If not, below is how the average rankings shake out for the SEC. From this, LSU is ahead of SC in this criteria. All data is updated as of this morning.
Most NCAA projections show a minimum of 12 teams making the tournament from the SEC. Texas is square on right on the bubble so a win today vs Tenn would be huge. Lunardi does have them as one of the "Last Four In", giving the SEC 13 teams.
Team Avg BPI KPI NET KenPom SOR Torvik WAB
1 Auburn 1.86 3 1 2 2 1 3 1
2 Florida 3.86 4 3 4 4 4 4 4
3 Alabama 4.43 5 2 6 6 2 5 5
4 Tennessee 4.86 6 4 5 5 5 7 2
5 Kentucky 12.57 16 8 13 15 11 17 8
6 Texas A&M 17.71 22 11 19 20 18 24 10
7 Missouri 22.43 29 25 17 17 30 15 24
8 Ole Miss 22.57 31 15 27 26 20 28 11
9 Mississippi St. 32.14 35 27 34 32 34 33 30
10 Georgia 34.57 38 37 33 34 36 29 35
11 Oklahoma 40.86 45 41 44 37 39 49 31
12 Arkansas 41.71 44 40 39 40 45 44 40
13 Texas 43.57 32 50 38 42 50 48 45
14 Vanderbilt 45.29 56 44 47 48 41 43 38
15 LSU 85.43 74 102 89 88 87 84 74
16 South Carolina 89.86 80 105 87 70 110 75 102
EDIT- Sorry, formatting is a mess. I tried to post it as an image but it didn't post.
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Exempt teams will include the top two teams not selected to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship from both the Atlantic Coast Conference and Southeastern Conference. In addition, the top team not selected to the NCAA championship from the top 12 conferences (based on the Ken Pomeroy Rating) will receive an exempt bid to the NIT. The top teams from each conference will be determined based on the average of the teams’ ESPN Basketball Power Index (BPI), Kevin Pauga Index (KPI), NCAA Evaluation Tool (NET), Ken Pomeroy Rating (KenPom), Strength of Record (SOR), Torvik ranking and Wins Above Bubble (WAB) ranking. All rankings are already included in the “Team Sheets” used by the NIT Committee during the selection process.
This does not specify if any of the individual rankings are weighted in any format. If not, below is how the average rankings shake out for the SEC. From this, LSU is ahead of SC in this criteria. All data is updated as of this morning.
Most NCAA projections show a minimum of 12 teams making the tournament from the SEC. Texas is square on right on the bubble so a win today vs Tenn would be huge. Lunardi does have them as one of the "Last Four In", giving the SEC 13 teams.
Team Avg BPI KPI NET KenPom SOR Torvik WAB
1 Auburn 1.86 3 1 2 2 1 3 1
2 Florida 3.86 4 3 4 4 4 4 4
3 Alabama 4.43 5 2 6 6 2 5 5
4 Tennessee 4.86 6 4 5 5 5 7 2
5 Kentucky 12.57 16 8 13 15 11 17 8
6 Texas A&M 17.71 22 11 19 20 18 24 10
7 Missouri 22.43 29 25 17 17 30 15 24
8 Ole Miss 22.57 31 15 27 26 20 28 11
9 Mississippi St. 32.14 35 27 34 32 34 33 30
10 Georgia 34.57 38 37 33 34 36 29 35
11 Oklahoma 40.86 45 41 44 37 39 49 31
12 Arkansas 41.71 44 40 39 40 45 44 40
13 Texas 43.57 32 50 38 42 50 48 45
14 Vanderbilt 45.29 56 44 47 48 41 43 38
15 LSU 85.43 74 102 89 88 87 84 74
16 South Carolina 89.86 80 105 87 70 110 75 102
EDIT- Sorry, formatting is a mess. I tried to post it as an image but it didn't post.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 10:48 am
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:49 am to Off McVoy
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we get an NIT bid. Do we accept it?
Nobody at LSU wants it.
The players don’t want it. The admin doesn’t want it. McMahon sure as hell doesn’t want it.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:50 am to Gings5
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I hope we accept then lose first game to McTranny State by 90. Maybe then we will can McWoman.
I laughed.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:13 am to Dexter Fillmore
Why is Vandy so low? Aren't they a solid tournament team?
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:16 am to moneyg
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Nobody at LSU wants it.
The players don’t want it. The admin doesn’t want it. McMahon sure as hell doesn’t want it.
Right. In the past, when there was some sort of roster consistency, the NIT was at least a way to get more games and practice time for guys to build for next season.
That doesn't exist anymore. And no one watches is. The tournament itself really shouldn't exist anymore.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:29 am to Off McVoy
Wouldn’t mind going to the NIT with an interim coach.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:41 am to ProjectP2294
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Right. In the past, when there was some sort of roster consistency, the NIT was at least a way to get more games and practice time for guys to build for next season.
That doesn't exist anymore. And no one watches is. The tournament itself really shouldn't exist anymore.
While maybe true, that’s not the whole story.
McMahon wants to lay low. He doesn’t want another disaster. He has his job for another year if he lays low.
The players are done. They don’t want to get out there for this program again.
The admin needs the season to end. They have taken the hits and criticism. it would be like opening an old wound.
I don’t know if there are any fans that want it either.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:44 am to moneyg
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The players don’t want it. The admin doesn’t want it. McMahon sure as hell doesn’t want it.
McMahon's answers about possible NIT following Wednesday's game were extremely non-committal. Not sure if he doesn't want it or if he was instructed by the athletic department to be non-committal.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:03 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Please explain.
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There is no acceptable reason for this season to continue any longer. It needed to end yesterday, which it did.
Because if you don’t accept you’re admitting state of the program is in active dumpster fire mode, which it is. If we pretend everything is fine and McMahon is our guy then you would obviously accept. By receiving an NIT bid, magnifying glass on program exists, which is good for us fans because the AD might be forced to do something but without bid, could ignore terrible state of things brought upon the program by their own decisions and wait for ire to lessen over time on its own. NIT bid possibly results in increased scrutiny of the program and accountability from Woodward and McMahon that otherwise wouldn’t exist.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:04 pm to JR Hamilsbach
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Because if you don’t accept you’re admitting state of the program is in active dumpster fire mode, which it is
Everyone who isn't blind knows it is. Accepting or declining a pointless NIT bid doesn't change that.
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By receiving an NIT bid, magnifying glass on program exists, which is good for us fans because the AD might be forced to do something but without bid, could ignore terrible state of things brought upon the program by their own decisions and wait for ire to lessen over time on its own. NIT bid possibly results in increased scrutiny of the program and accountability from Woodward and McMahon that otherwise wouldn’t exist.
This is the biggest word-salad bunch of nonsensical crap I think I've ever read here. It makes zero sense
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:30 am to LSUGrad9295
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Everyone who isn't blind knows it is. Accepting or declining a pointless NIT bid doesn't change that.
The athletic department and its propagandists claim that everything is fine with the program except the talent.
Now, anyone with a brain knows that is complete bullshite, but declining the bid is an implicit admission.
If MM had a good locker room and team buy in, accepting the bid would be a no brainer.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:30 pm to MasterofTigerBait
10 SEC teams so far
West Regional coming up
West Regional coming up
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:33 pm to Double Oh
Posted in another thread, but LSU will decline NIT bid if it comes. Mainly due to not enough players
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:37 pm to LSUGrad9295
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but LSU will decline NIT bid if it comes. Mainly due to not enough players
Even if they had enough players they should decline it. That team is trash
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:38 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
So the SEC strong armed to get the 2 automatic bids and now won’t use them? I’d think LSU accepts and hosts first round.
Posted on 3/16/25 at 5:39 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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