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re: New #LSU OC Matt Canada: "Plays are overrated. Players win games. Not plays."
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:54 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:54 pm to Prominentwon
no, you need players AND good play-calling to consistently win against good teams.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:56 pm to Prominentwon
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If the players win games, do they lose them also?
Yep....players score TDs and kick FGs and win games....they also fumble and throw interceptions that lose games....this statement is not that far-fetched.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:13 pm to Prominentwon
Ugh, the exact mentality I did not want.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:22 pm to Prominentwon
Worthless coach speak. Football is both strategy and execution, coaches are,responsible for both.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:30 pm to Prominentwon
So he agrees with the guy who said, "It's not the X's and O's, It's the Jimmys and Joes."
In our case, "O's" has a double meaning.
In our case, "O's" has a double meaning.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:31 pm to timlan2057
You guys act like he should have thrown players under the bus.
It would be like a starbucks CEO saying "Our workers dont make good coffee, we make good coffee" at an employee retreat.
It would be like a starbucks CEO saying "Our workers dont make good coffee, we make good coffee" at an employee retreat.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:35 pm to BeeFense5
Yeah because our players were the reason for the Ole miss clusterfrick in 09
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:39 pm to Prominentwon
Let me help.
Its a recruiting tool nothing more. In other words its all about the players. "Come here and its not the plays that will be the star or the coaching staff but you the player." Or..."do you want to be just a cog in a machine or do you want to excell and show your skills on a national stage?"
Its a recruiting tool nothing more. In other words its all about the players. "Come here and its not the plays that will be the star or the coaching staff but you the player." Or..."do you want to be just a cog in a machine or do you want to excell and show your skills on a national stage?"
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:42 pm to Prominentwon
Coachspeak, dude.
Don't read too much into it.
Don't read too much into it.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:43 pm to Prominentwon
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If the players win games, do they lose them also?
Not - but it means if you lose, the players didn't win the game.
I don't have a lot of heartache with that philosophy - it's true and kids like the honesty. It's still - ultimately - the coaches' responsibility to put them in the best possible position to win the game.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:44 pm to Prominentwon
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Curious the Rants thoughts on this.
If the players win games, do they lose them also?
Let's remember that only coaches are responsible for losses, not wins. Players are only responsible for wins, not losses?
Pay less attention to the words he's using and listen more to what he's saying.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:45 pm to Prominentwon
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Curious the Rants thoughts on this.
It's the truth. A coach can call a perfect game and still lose if his players don't show up.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:54 pm to Prominentwon
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New #LSU OC Matt Canada: "Plays are overrated. Players win games. Not plays."
He's right. Coaches put the players in a place to succeed. I don't think Miles & crew were doing that.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:59 pm to WhoGeaux
quote:exactly this. its hype for the recruits, a "we're built on you" kinda thing, nothing more.
It's the type of coach speak you use when your about to go recruit the best fricking players in the country.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:00 pm to Mr. Wayne
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He's right. Coaches put the players in a place to succeed
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It's the truth. A coach can call a perfect game and still lose if his players don't show up.
This is what I was looking for, actually. The rant tends to disagree with this. That if the players screw up, it's not their fault.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:02 pm to Prominentwon
No, the rant thought players weren't being put in situations where they could be successful you stupid troll.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:05 pm to Salmon
This is him saying I know what I'm doing and calling will work if the players make it work. He's also saying he will do everything possible to have these players prepared to dominate in his offense. That's what I got anyway lol
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:14 pm to Prominentwon
Well Les Miles made a damn strong living off of players not plays so I tend to agree with him.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:16 pm to Prominentwon
A truer statement was never spoken!
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:22 pm to bmy
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He's right. Coaches put the players in a place to succeed. I don't think Miles & crew were doing that.
exactly. You need the players. Great coaching doesn't really win games so much as bad coaching loses games. In other words, a coach who doesn't put his players in positions to win the game can lose the game, but a good coach will put his players in the position to win but it takes players to win.
put another way. A bad coach is like sailing a boat with the anchor down. Hard to win like that. But all a good coach has to do is pull the anchor up and then it is up to the best sailboat to win the race.
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