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re: My thoughts about the Coach O hire... (long)
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:56 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:56 pm to WilliamTaylor21
They coached "to not get blown out" against Bama.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:09 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Why?
Whiney, entitled, bullshite attitude by way too many people .
Miles wasted some talent and fans are rightfully tired of it. But get a grip.
Like it or hate it, the circumstances surrounding the situation made orgeron a very logical outcome - of course one can disagree with it. Do you go to a middle tier hire, possibly losing Aranda (Aranda is good enough now to not have to work with someone he doesn't want to) and the recruiting of orgeron, only to pay up, with the possibility it doesn't even work out, and pissing off the 15-40% of the fan base who love Orgeron?
I'm looking at this more from a game theory bystander, not pro or anti orgeron.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:09 pm to Salmon
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can we blame the coaches for lack of creativity of play calling?
Sure we can blame them for a lack of creativity. That's what cost Les Miles his job. But is 3rd and a foot and 4th and a foot with no time left in the game, the time you want to get creative?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:11 pm to kfaulk03
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Whiney, entitled, bullshite attitude by way too many people .
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Do you go to a middle tier hire
Hell, we didn't even do that. That would have been an upgrade from a head coaching perspective.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:14 pm to kfaulk03
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Like it or hate it, the circumstances surrounding the situation made orgeron a very logical outcome - of course one can disagree with it.
Hindsight is very logical. We had 2 targets and were unwilling to even fight for the top choice. Joe always had a fallback plan in O. O isnt very surprising because there was no search for candidates.
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and pissing off the 15-40% of the fan base who love Orgeron?
This is about doing what is best to win games. If people think the best option was O, well screw them. This isnt/wasnt a time to make an emotional hire and thats just what we did.
frick Alleva
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:18 pm to kfaulk03
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Like it or hate it, the circumstances surrounding the situation made orgeron a very logical outcome
There is literally NOTHING "logical" about it.
At best, it can be defended emotionally
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:18 pm to ShortyRob
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The number of people on this board who think being an interim HC is remotely similar to running a program is truly mind boggling.
Why don't you tell us what the interim HC doesn't do in terms of running the program when he takes over for the previous head coach? Did Orgeron not give press conferences and do the TV show? Did he know longer maintain contact will ALL recruits? Did he not run meetings and form a game plan for upcoming opponents? Did he not go ahead and fire the offensive coordinator? Please unboggle my mind and tell me what Orgeron did or did not do that it is not "remotely similar" to running a program.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:20 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Was he the one who gave up a 98 yard touchdown? Was he the one who fumbled inside the five yard line? Was he the one who botched the hold on a field goal? Was he the one who fumbled on a kickoff inside our 30? Was he the one who went the wrong way on the last play?
These could be accounted for by the lack of repetition because of the reduced practicing time. I'm on the O wagon but maybe the players need more reps.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:22 pm to LSU82BILL
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Why don't you tell us what the interim HC doesn't do in terms of running the program when he takes over for the previous head coach
Damn. I'm embarrassed for you. Really. I am.
The list of things that happen between the last game of a season and the first of the next would literally be longer than my arm if typed in 12 font.
That you apparently can't think if ANY of them......smh
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:24 pm to LSU82BILL
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Please unboggle my mind and tell me what Orgeron did or did not do that it is not "remotely similar" to running a program.
hire his own staff
recruit his own players
have real accountability
manage an offseason
just to name a few
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:25 pm to ShortyRob
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Damn. I'm embarrassed for you. Really. I am.
The list of things that happen between the last game of a season and the first of the next would literally be longer than my arm if typed in 12 font.
That you apparently can't think if ANY of them......smh
Name me a program that names an INTERIM coach after the last game of the season and doesn't replace him before the first game of the next season. Either you don't understand the definition of interim or you are truly a moron.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:27 pm to Salmon
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hire his own staff
Cam Cameron and Pete Jenkins say "Hi"
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
Because, dude, some of you are the most miserable fricks on the planet. Why don't you just go jump off a skyscraper? You can't control most of what happens in life. But apparently you need to be self-righteous and stubborn. Misery loves company, and because you did not get your way, you are going to bash everyone and try to make them as miserable as you are. Is it really that much fun? Is spewing vitriol what your whole life is about? Apparently so.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:29 pm to LSU82BILL
he hired Cam?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:29 pm to Salmon
11-4; 6-2 @ usc & 5-2 @ LSU.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:31 pm to LSU82BILL
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Cam Cameron and Pete Jenkins say "Hi"
Oh yes, this is exactly the same thing.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:32 pm to bruce2129
the only thing that tells me is that he can at least be Larry Coker
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:34 pm to Salmon
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he hired Cam?
Nope, but he sure as hell fired him and named his own OC, didn't he?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:35 pm to LSU82BILL
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Nope, but he sure as hell fired him and named his own OC, didn't he?
yeah he did...
an OC that scored 0 at home against Bama
maybe he should have promoted Craig
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:38 pm to Salmon
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yeah he did... an OC that scored 0 at home against Bama
OK, but that is not the fricking point. The point is that he made changes to his staff just like a permanent head coach does. But then again, you don't really care what the point is if it doesn't align with your agenda, do you?
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