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re: morgan at 1st in the league
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:49 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:49 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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His stretch and dig on that Thompson throw yesterday was more impressive than the play Thompson made.
Okay, we need to calm down
He’s a great 1st baseman, but Thompson’s play was definitely the more impressive part of that groundout
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:51 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Announcers ALSO said that in ML stretching and digging errant throws to 1st base isn’t really a thing they put in high priority. The players throwing the ball to 1st base are elite and mostly make very accurate throws. If not, they typically DO NOT play an infield position.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 9:54 am to Lester Earl
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His arm is fine for LF or even CF. He just needs time in the OF to learn the nuisances. And he needs to drop some of weight he’s gained & really commit to getting his body right
LF yes, I don't think it is for CF in MLB. I also don't think he runs well enough compared to other players on MLB rosters to play CF. I don't think him dropping weight would help himself with the problem of not having the consistent power for LF and 1B. Getting his body right while maintaining weight to keep building upon getting more power would be his best bet.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:01 am to bearhc
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he can play all four outfield positions
Where to start with this? There's only 3 outfield positions, he doesn't have the arm to play right field or the range to play center. He'll be a LF or 1B. He's not prototyplical at either, so fit may be an issue.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:07 am to CatfishJohn
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He really isn't a great runner actually. He's not slow, but he doesn't have plus speed.
Yes, his Strat O Matic baseball card would give him a Stealing C and running 1-13. Decent enough runner but nowhere near blazing speed.
I do think that injury last season affected his speed.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:08 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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His stretch and dig on that Thompson throw yesterday was more impressive than the play Thompson made.
BS. That play by Thompson was made by one of the few who could make that play.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:15 am to Riolobo
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You never realize how good someone is until they leave. He saves us one or two outs a game and I’m not sure we have someone that can replace that next year.
There is a reason we don't have Jared Jones at 1st base. He had 14 homers halfway through the season. It wasn't just the errors that he made, but the plays that he didn't make that wouldn't have been errors. If Morgan doesn't make the play on the Thompson throw, it probably would have been ruled a hit. Jones isn't making that play. Same thing with the line drive their 3rd baseman hit on Saturday night. That's a hit and UK has runners on 1st and third, instead of inning over.
BTW, Morgan has a very good arm - I think he probably has a better arm than Crews does. Is it a cannon to be feared? No, but it is better than average.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:21 am to BayTiger13
Like I said
Likely to play CF? Prob not. But if his body was righ, he could.
And his lack of power isn’t about strength. It’s about approach & swing mechanics. His hand / eye is elite and if he committed to change approach his power would increase.
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People just love to over-exaggerate his weak points on this board.
Likely to play CF? Prob not. But if his body was righ, he could.
And his lack of power isn’t about strength. It’s about approach & swing mechanics. His hand / eye is elite and if he committed to change approach his power would increase.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:40 am to SammyTiger
There has been alot of solid MLB 1st Basemen the last few years that don't hit for a ton of power.
LeMahieu
Abreu
Gurriel
Arraez
Bell
Santana
Freeman
France
Flores
All hit less than 25 Homeruns in 2022. Most of these hit less than 20.
LeMahieu
Abreu
Gurriel
Arraez
Bell
Santana
Freeman
France
Flores
All hit less than 25 Homeruns in 2022. Most of these hit less than 20.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:42 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:it all depends on his hitting. He can be great at first but if he can’t hit 300, they’ll find someone who can
WHy would a team not want someone like that at 1st?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:51 am to JWill409
His size or lack of power does not really keep him from 1B. There are a bunch of outliers with both.
The main thing that could push him off is the same thing that happened at LSU this year; a ball club has another guy that can only really play 1B, has a big power profile, and that is the only spot you can place him in the field. That is what he is going to have to deal with.
The main thing that could push him off is the same thing that happened at LSU this year; a ball club has another guy that can only really play 1B, has a big power profile, and that is the only spot you can place him in the field. That is what he is going to have to deal with.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:56 am to TeddyPadillac
He will never, ever play first base in the MLB. He won't even be a first baseman in the minors. He will be an outfielder.
For the love of God this is not even a discussion yet you people obstinately refuse to believe it.
For the love of God this is not even a discussion yet you people obstinately refuse to believe it.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:57 am to Lester Earl
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That's why he's so fun to watch. He's always making weird moves, but he gets it done.
Yep, that quick stylin' spin away from the plate after a pitch passes--I swear he's facing the other way sometimes before the ball hits the glove.
Nice to see him come through as one of the most dependable hitters in the post-season after that bit of a slump towards the end of the season (other than that little "hit for the cycle" thing
) . We need him to win it all! This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:57 am to JWill409
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LeMahieu
Abreu
Gurriel
Arraez
Bell
Santana
Freeman
France
Flores
but how many of them are capable of playing LF?
Given the right team, and assuming Tre can hit at a MLB level, regardless of homers or not, he can play 1st in the league. It's just more likely he ends up in LF if he does make it.
If he were to go to say the Mets, he has zero chance of getting Pete Alonso to move off 1st.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:25 am to The Bloody Stick
Will be very surprised if he plays first in the show.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:31 am to geauxbrown
why is this anchored?
Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:35 am to Godfather1
Keith Hernandez is a perfect example.
Same skillset and same size for a first baseman. Hernandez wasn't a power hitter. This was at a time when many teams had big, unathletic power hitting first basemen - Willie Stargell, Dave Kingman, Cecil Fielder, and so on. Hernandez played for a long time. The difference is that Hernandez couldn't play the outfield.
Another comparison would be Bill Buckner. Same size, and similar skillset - could play outfield and 1st base. Buckner didn't have an elite glove at 1st, but he was decent and was athletic enough early in his career to play outfield.
I mention Buckner because he was in the league for over 20 years, and although he was never a perennial all-star like Hernandez , he was a solid contact hitter and good enough in the field to hang around a long time.
Hernandez was a better hitter most of his career and a perrenial all-star and golden glove winner.
The question around Morgan has got to be whether he can get the batting average up to the .300 range. If he can, he can play outfield and 1st base as a flex option. For the right team, he can be a Keith Hernandez type option.
There is also the possibility that he could restructure his swing to get more power. He has shown the ability to drive the ball a long ways, but his swi g produces more line drives than long balls.
Same skillset and same size for a first baseman. Hernandez wasn't a power hitter. This was at a time when many teams had big, unathletic power hitting first basemen - Willie Stargell, Dave Kingman, Cecil Fielder, and so on. Hernandez played for a long time. The difference is that Hernandez couldn't play the outfield.
Another comparison would be Bill Buckner. Same size, and similar skillset - could play outfield and 1st base. Buckner didn't have an elite glove at 1st, but he was decent and was athletic enough early in his career to play outfield.
I mention Buckner because he was in the league for over 20 years, and although he was never a perennial all-star like Hernandez , he was a solid contact hitter and good enough in the field to hang around a long time.
Hernandez was a better hitter most of his career and a perrenial all-star and golden glove winner.
The question around Morgan has got to be whether he can get the batting average up to the .300 range. If he can, he can play outfield and 1st base as a flex option. For the right team, he can be a Keith Hernandez type option.
There is also the possibility that he could restructure his swing to get more power. He has shown the ability to drive the ball a long ways, but his swi g produces more line drives than long balls.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 12:06 pm to Jax-Tiger
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There is a reason we don't have Jared Jones at 1st base. He had 14 homers halfway through the season. It wasn't just the errors that he made, but the plays that he didn't make that wouldn't have been errors
Sorry, but you are dead arse wrong. If Jones does not go through that massive strike out spell, he is still playing first base.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 1:51 pm to JWill409
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LeMahieu Abreu Gurriel Arraez Bell Santana Freeman France Flores
almost all those guys are either 1. utility players who are mostly middle infielders 2. guys who have in the past hit a good amount of home runs and either had a bad year or are getting way older.
Gurriel is probably the guy with the worst offensive stats over his career be is also 38.
France is another one.
likeni said most teams prefer power and 20/30 teams had a 1st basemen who hit 20 or more HRs.
Posted on 6/12/23 at 2:04 pm to Lester Earl
what ya mean
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