Started By
Message

re: More velocity on Etling's throws

Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:06 am to
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30925 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:06 am to
Ya, some of those were 30-40 yards across the field. May have only been a 15 yard pass, but he definitely has the strength.

There are a bunch of people on this board that need to take a step back and quit posting.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95938 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:20 am to
Etling played phenomenal. But I still didnt see any zip on his balls.

His 15 yard outs were simply perfect touch passes, he didnt zip them over there like some qbs do.

But who gives a shite
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56707 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:36 am to
Arm strength for a QB is like 40 time for a RB...it's about 4th or 5th on the list of things that make one great.

If Etling is going to have a great year, it's going to be because he understands the passing concepts, makes good decisions, can deliver from the pocket and move within the pocket enough to make a few plays. Those are things that he is probably much better at than Brennan at this point.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11037 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

If he had hit Chark in stride, 6.
yup, and gotta give Chark full credit for adjusting, competing, and winning the catch...
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

On two third downs in the first quarter, Etling threw across the field to Derek Dillon twice right against the sideline. You could really see that the ball wasn't floating over there and beat the DB right on time.


I had the exact opposite impression. Both of those balls floated and are dangerous throws against better secondaries. Etling has his obvious physical limitations. As long as he stays within those, we should be fine.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4294 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

You've just described almost any college QB.
I agree. But if you want to beat the best, you're at a disadvantage with QB with an average at best arm.
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4294 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

I had the exact opposite impression. Both of those balls floated and are dangerous throws against better secondaries. Etling has his obvious physical limitations. As long as he stays within those, we should be fine.
My thoughts exactly.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:55 am to
Danny Etling said the other day in one of his many interviews that he can toss a football over 65 yards and the way he did it sarcastically is like he is tired of stupid people questioning his arm strength, as he obviously doesn't believe he has a problem and to be honest I don't think he does either. Of course, I'm not an arm chair quarterback that never played football like those loons are either.
Posted by southendzoneresident
Member since Jun 2013
1115 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:01 pm to
I honestly don't care if he hits a man in stride. He reads coverage, checks his routes and hits the open man. He got his playmakers the ball. Threw a catchable ball to the open receiver and gave his receiver a chance to make a play. That's all we need.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:03 pm to
Just curious, how many years were you a quarterback in the NFL? And how many years have you coached quarterbacks? Zero. That is right, everyone here knows you are an arm chair quarterback who never played football except for in your backyard. Do us a favor, go take a hike and get lost.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14476 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

touch and throwing a "catchable ball" is an underappreciated trait

Yep. Just ask Joe Montana and Peyton Manning. Neither had strong arms or threw with velocity.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

If he had hit Chark in stride, 6.




Way under thrown, not a terrible throw but Florida and Bama dbs would be all over that.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:16 pm to
Way under thrown, bench him cause Bama will eat those passes alive.

Reality is the ball was just barely slightly under thrown and considering the length of the throw, most pro quarterbacks would be very happy with throws just like that one.

You're nothing but an arm chair quarterback who never ever played football except for on Nintendo.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85139 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Just curious, how many years were you a quarterback in the NFL? And how many years have you coached quarterbacks? Zero. That is right, everyone here knows you are an arm chair quarterback who never played football except for in your backyard. Do us a favor, go take a hike and get lost.




Is this the criteria for determining whether or not a pass could have used some more zip?

We're being nit picky, but it's a valid, albeit small, concern.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:25 pm to
Sorry I just don't think arm chair quarterbacks who never played football are qualified to be judges. In fact I haven't heard anyone else other than lame arm chair quarterbacks nitpicking and being critical. No one who actually played football is giving anything other than kudos and praise.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85139 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Sorry I just don't think arm chair quarterbacks who never played football are qualified to be judges. In fact I haven't heard anyone else other than lame arm chair quarterbacks nitpicking and being critical. No one who actually played football is giving anything other than kudos and praise.


Well yeah, Etling had a great game and is a more than adequate college QB. I'd also be willing to bet he'd say his pass to Chark was under thrown and he should have put a little more zip on a few passes.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
It's just crazy how people take identifying an imperfection in a guy's game as a flat out knock.

Very few people are a 10 in every performance category of what they do.

Etling is never going to play NFL football but ya know what, a LOT of perfectly good college QBs either never played NFL or barely had a cup of coffee there.

Etling has an average arm. The word "average" isn't an insult. In fact, it's the average!

Sure, people with average arms have a few throws they have to be careful with but that's why QBs also have brains. Good ones USE those brains to play within themselves.

Arguably the biggest QB arm ever to play the game belonged to Jeff George. A complete head case who never did shite other than throw a bunch of ridiculously great passes along with a bunch of ill advised ones.

Could the Chark throw have been deeper? Well of course. But honestly, if I'm coaching Etling and we're looking at film of that, my note to him was he was about a half second late letting it go.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7181 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

If he had hit Chark in stride, 6.


That is true but was it a timing issue or a velocity issue.

Etling could have timed it wrong. WR was running faster than expected, etc.

We won't know until later this season after a few of these throws.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:37 pm to
If our QB throws a dead duck over the middle and an LSU receiver catches it every time then I am very happy with that.

Sick and tired of the "sure Etlings had a 200 passer rating but it could have been better or it could have looked better.

Dickheads on this site are making Etling my favorite LSU QB of all time.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

That is true but was it a timing issue or a velocity issue.



Well, I'm calling it a timing issue because Etling's arm is his arm.

Yeah. A guy like Manning could wait that long to let it go because he would have had more on it.

Etling could have stood to release it a second earlier.

I was pulling a Lane Kiffin as soon as the receivers released. My arms went in the air. That he was going to be open was apparent at the snap.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram