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re: More lively arm talent: Burrow or Brennan?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:59 pm to Tigers4life
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:59 pm to Tigers4life
But accuracy can be vastly improved through improvements in mechanics. Joe Burrow is a shining example right in your face of this. Last season Burrow was very flat footed and didn’t reset properly when moving around, his comp pct (57.8%). This year he worked his tail off on the things he needed to in order to improve his accuracy and we’ve seen the difference. Now you see him up on his toes sliding around inside the pocket and delivering strikes he couldn’t make last year. Arm strength can’t really be cultivated the way accuracy can, you’re comparing apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 7:01 pm
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:41 pm to Tigers4life
Does Brennan usually throw harder than Burrow does? Yes
Does Haskins usually throw harder than Burrow does? Yes
Does that mean Brennan and Haskins have stronger arms? No.
It just means that they usually throw harder. And that Burrow throws with touch on almost every throw. And when Burrow needs to... he can fire a bullet.
Does Haskins usually throw harder than Burrow does? Yes
Does that mean Brennan and Haskins have stronger arms? No.
It just means that they usually throw harder. And that Burrow throws with touch on almost every throw. And when Burrow needs to... he can fire a bullet.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:44 pm to Ebridg3
quote:
I think you mean single season. Last season will probably impact the all time award
Yes. Burrow will likely break the all-time season record for competition percentage.
(kind of a big deal... in case you didn't know)
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:23 pm to Chad504boy
Takes more than arm talent to be qb. Haven’t you learned anything this year?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:34 pm to tiger chaser
quote:
Takes more than arm talent to be qb. Haven’t you learned anything this year?
From the OP:
quote:
Please keep this discussion solely on focused on strength of their arm/throwing talent.
I don’t know why this is complicated for y’all. OP is just asking who has a stronger arm.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:40 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
1. One player is known for having a cannon
2. The other player literally stated that his former coach would laugh at how weak his arm was
2. The other player literally stated that his former coach would laugh at how weak his arm was
Posted on 11/15/19 at 1:13 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Burrow will likely break the all-time season record for competition percentage.
Geez, man. Everybody can see that. They don't need you to point it out.
You've proved you were right and I personally have given you credit for it.
That doesn't give you a green light to start being a jerk to people that are simply comparing the two QBs. Like it's something personal against Burrow. It isn't.
Relax with your defensiveness. Geez
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:34 am to la_birdman
You and your little group of Debbie Downers have attempted to minimize Joe Burrow's skill set since he arrived at LSU. You didn't know what you were talking about then. And you don't know what you are talking about now.
Here's a primer on "arm stregth":
You and your boyz LOVE to dish it out... but you turn into snowflakes when you have to take some flak.
Here's a primer on "arm stregth":
quote:
Does Brennan usually throw harder than Burrow does? Yes
Does Haskins usually throw harder than Burrow does? Yes
Does that mean Brennan and Haskins have stronger arms? No.
It just means that they usually throw harder. And that Burrow throws with touch on almost every throw. And when Burrow needs to... he can fire a bullet.
You and your boyz LOVE to dish it out... but you turn into snowflakes when you have to take some flak.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You and your little group of Debbie Downers
First off, you can stop right there. I don't know where you're getting this 'group of Debbie Downers' garbage from. And I don't know who you think "my boyz" are.
I post my feelings about the matter and don't speak for anyone else.
I've already said I've given you credit for being right. Now I've said it at least three times.
I'm not, and everyone else is not, trying to minimize Burrow's accomplishments. I don't know where you're getting this vibe from.
Burrow's accomplishments are insane and he has 3 more games to go. He has lit it up and he deserves the publicity.
Second, I didn't say anything about arm strength. I was simply stating that you needn't rush to any thread where you see the kid's name and rush in at his defense and act like a jerk to anyone that remotely says something about Burrow that you don't agree with.
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but you turn into snowflakes when you have to take some flak.
See? There you go again. Who is talking flak about him? Nobody is.
No one, I mean no one, is talking bad about him. So that goes back to the above quote.
Turn off your defensiveness switch. Damn
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:52 am to la_birdman
Claiming that Burrow has a weaker arm than Brennan or Haskins is baseless criticism of an LSU athlete.
I, and others, have stepped up on this thread to dispute that baseless criticism. The weak arm fake-news has faded away from most major sports media outlets.
But it is still running strong with a small group on TD. It should be vigorously disputed every time that fake crap pops up.
I, and others, have stepped up on this thread to dispute that baseless criticism. The weak arm fake-news has faded away from most major sports media outlets.
But it is still running strong with a small group on TD. It should be vigorously disputed every time that fake crap pops up.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 2:53 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Claiming that Burrow has a weaker arm than Brennan or Haskins is baseless criticism of an LSU athlete.
Did I say this? I just stated a couple posts above that comparing the two is fine. All they're doing is comparing them.
quote:
But it is still running strong with a small group on TD
I haven't seen that. Just because someone wants to compare the two doesn't mean they're dumping on Burrow. Come on, man
EVERYBODY is in love with Burrow.
I guarantee you that nobody is hating Burrow.
Turn off the defensive switch. Goodness, man
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 3:09 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:18 am to la_birdman
quote:They are stating a conclusion that Burrow has a weaker arm than Brennan. There is ZERO evidence to support this silliness. This is baseless criticism of Burrow's arm strength.
Did I say this? I just stated a couple posts above that comparing the two is fine. All they're doing is comparing them.
This is how false narratives are perpetuated.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:22 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
They are stating a conclusion that Burrow has a weaker arm than Brennan. There is ZERO evidence to support this silliness. This is baseless criticism of Burrow's arm strength.
They're just comparing them.
So basically you don't want anyone to compare the heir apparent to Burrow.
I have no idea why you get so defensive about these things. It's simply a comparison. Not who is better. It's just a comparison.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:38 am to la_birdman
quote:Basically, I want to dispute their baseless criticism of Burrow's arm strength without your constant attempts to silence my dissent.
So basically you don't want anyone to compare the heir apparent to Burrow.
I have no idea why you get so defensive about these things. It's simply a comparison. Not who is better. It's just a comparison.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 3:44 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:55 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
So basically you don't want anyone to compare the heir apparent to Burrow.
You:
quote:
Basically
That's a ridiculous way to act. Like it's something personal.
quote:
I want to dispute their baseless criticism of Burrow's arm strength without your constant attempts to silence my dissent.
All they're doing is comparing the two. Geez man. It's not who is better. They are just comparing the two.
quote:
your constant attempts to silence my dissent.
My constant attempts? Show me where I've said that or even tried to do such.
Not even worth getting into this with you. I have no idea why you act like this when a simple comparison is made between the two QBs.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Bro I think you might actually be Joe
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:10 am to la_birdman
quote:It is NOT merely a simple comparison. It is a perpetuation of an idiotic narrative that started in Ohio by sportswriters who don't know dip about the passing game.
Not even worth getting into this with you. I have no idea why you act like this when a simple comparison is made between the two QBs.
They ignorantly believed that Burrow's exceptional ability to throw with touch meant he COULD NOT fire it when required. Nearly all analysts who played the game now agree that Burrow makes ALL the NFL throws (a weak arm can't make the outside throws nor the 20+ throws down the middle)
Burrow is leading the NCAA in percentage, will be the first QB off the board, and is completing the 20+ throws at a unbelievable rate - PARTICULARLY the long throws down the middle.
Anyone who throws piss balloons on any aspect of Burrow's game will hear from me, and from his other strong supporters on this site.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 4:11 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:11 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Lame comparison.
Burrow could knock down a brick wall if he chose to. Burrrow throws with touch because he WANTS to. Not because he can't throw smoke,
Judge a QB by his ability to complete passes (at a high completion percentage) to every area of the field. NOT by his choice to throw hard when an underhand toss would be 5 times more effective.
Burrow throws bullets when he NEEDS to. Which is not all that often. BTW, it takes MUCH more skill to throw with touch than to throw all fastballs
nuff said
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:17 am to Tom Thumb
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Man some of you guys are dicks, OP made it pretty clear he was asking solely about arm strength.
OK - what's next - pushups?? arm wrestling?? 'arm strength' is a pretty insignificant item compared to all the other qualities that make for a good QB
ESPECIALLY if you are talking bout the difference between 99% and 97%
OF COURSE you have to have some 'arm strength' to even be in the discussion - but is like granting promotions in a business on the basis of SAT scores.
It's a waste of time to discuss - and should be mocked as such.
OTHERWISE - we will have 'serious' questions about differences in shoe size
Posted on 11/15/19 at 4:19 am to ChineseBandit58
The last time Brennan was called on to deliver balls that needed to be catchable was in HS where he had an almost 70% completion rate and a career total of 165 TD passes to 25 ints. Are you saying that those little high school receivers that none of which are playing D1 ball are that much more capable of catching Brennan’s passes then the LSU receiver corp? I didn’t think so. Brennan passes have more velocity then Burrow’s and he can put touch on it when necessary. You don’t throw for 15,000 yards and 165 tds by not being able to throw a catchable ball.
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