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re: Moral Question - Selling season football tickets

Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57477 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:16 am to
quote:

is it wrong for them to go to the highest bidder?


No.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97756 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:33 am to
If you sell someone your tickets for face you are basically giving them a gift equal to the difference between face and market value so I would say it depends on who you sell them to.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11280 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:34 am to
quote:

If someone was going to sell their season football tickets just for this year, is it wrong for them to go to the highest bidder?


It depends on why you are selling them.

If you need the money, then treat them as an asset and try to make a few dollars.

If you don't need the extra money, face value and feel good about allowing someone to have your usual Tiger Stadium experience for a year.
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6014 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:43 am to
Morality should not be confused with making a profit. Giving it to the highest bidder shouldn't freak your moral compass. I'd say that's economics. These days, morality is a punchline used to boast and feel good about oneself in public and is not a personal thing done discreetly.
When one has to advertise their morality, you know something is wrong.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:51 am to
is it moral to pay someone less than face value for tickets when demand is low?

sell the tickets for the very most you can get for them...I can assure people saying sell only at face value walk around the stadium buying Middle Tennessee State tickets for $5 and don't think twice about it...

Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 8:58 am to
quote:

If someone was going to sell their season football tickets just for this year, is it wrong for them to go to the highest bidder?


Are you selling the rights to the SEC CG and any bowl bid as well?

If so, I say highest bidder OK. Otherwise questionable.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13690 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 9:06 am to
Try selling them to friends at face value. If you have no takers, sell on the open market to the highest bidder (you never know if the "true tiger fan" that you've never met that you sell them to for face is going to turn around and scalp them).
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 9:08 am to
A sucker is born everyday.

I personally wouldnt pay you over face, but... some people have more money than sense.
Posted by Newbomb Turk
perfectanschlagen
Member since May 2008
9961 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 9:49 am to
First, calling the Tradition Fund or TAF "FEE" a donation is a complete farce. It's strictly a means of getting "donors" a tax deduction for a portion of their season ticket cost. If there was no associated tax deduction, there would be no "donation" and the administration would simply add the "donation" to the cost/face value of the ticket.

Second, this isn't a moral question at all. If you want to sell any asset you own for less than it's worth, that's your prerogative. Many will say that you're just being nice. Others will say that you're a fool. It's the people who don't have tickets and didn't support the team when times were bad that try to put a guilt trip on season ticket holders to sell tickets for less than they are worth. Notice these same douchebags have no problem sitting outside Tiger Stadium against the weak OOC teams trying to "rip off" other "true Tiger fans" by offering them $5 for a ticket that they paid over $90 for. To them, that's just the "market" and they then go an brag to their friends about how they sat on the sidelines for $5. But, if someone ask for more than face for the good games, then, to these hypocrites, they are just scumbags.


So, if you want to couch this in terms of "morals" shouldn't you also ask, "is it also immoral for a 'true Tiger fan' to offer someone less than the cost of the ticket to see LSU play Troy St.?"
Posted by Bayou Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
3659 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:08 am to
I always sold them to somebody I knew for face value plus TAF fee. Close friends or family for one-off games, I just gave them away. Just a personal preference, I just didn't feel right about scalping them to perfect strangers when I could sell them to friends who are big LSU fans. The one time I sold them on ticket exchange I also did face value plus TAF.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
Member since Jul 2005
9766 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:13 am to
If you plan on selling them for face, then know who you are selling to. Over the last couple years, I have seen people sell tickets on the ticket exchange board for actual costs, only to get them bought by one of the scalpers who frequent that board. So basically their good deed and faith turned into someone else's profit.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70777 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:14 am to
quote:

If someone was going to sell their season football tickets just for this year, is it wrong for them to go to the highest bidder?


It is definitely okay, as long as you are not defrauding anyone. There is nothing wrong with the honest pursuit of profit. Although you aren't necessarily seeking profit in this case, if someone is willing to buy the tickets for a certain price don't feel guilty for selling it to them.
Posted by emry123
Member since Aug 2008
939 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:16 am to
at the end of the day it is and will always be about money...it is the root of all evil...everything that is done these days has to do with making it...
Posted by jtweezy
Natchez, MS
Member since May 2008
236 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:16 am to
Sell em to the highest bidder, go to Vegas, and make it rain.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10747 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:27 am to
it's what you call a free enterprise. heck i was buying tickets when you couldn't give them away for free, paying for a bad product. now i get to reap the rewards of a good product, profit wise or however it goes.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:42 am to
The whole "money is everything" argument is why Tiger Stadium is:

1. 50% purple and gold blooded screaming LSU maniacs that stick through the bad times and celebrate the good times.

2. 50% companies buying large blocks of tickets that give them away to ice a business deal, impress clients, etc.

In other words, it's why people complain about the Tiger stadium crowd being so fickle and so quick to jump ship. It's why people complain of the crowd being much milder now compared to what it used to be and why people show up and don't really know the true culture of LSU games. It's why I never have the same 4 people next to me on my right and left over the years.

That's the cold hard truth.

If I sell my tickets, the winner will have gone through a screening. He will buy them at face value, but there are more important things to me than making an extra $500. Especially with LSU football which is, sadly enough, so damn important to me.

Now, if somebody wants to offer me $1,000,000 for my two tickets, we might have to talk...
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4129 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I would say it depends on who you sell them to.


Joe, this is actually the deciding factor for me. If you mean that you intend to sell them to a friend or family member, then you should get your money back out of it (face value + TAF), but I wouldn't look to make a profit.

If you're selling them to make a buck, then get as much as you can. No shame in it at all.
Posted by TigerBandTuba
Member since Sep 2006
2547 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 11:06 am to
It would be wrong to start off asking for more than you paid for them.

I don't see how it would be wrong if someone is willing to pay that much for them. You aren't forcing anyone to do anything.
Posted by TigerDrumline
Kenner
Member since Feb 2009
595 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 11:13 am to
If you want to do the "right" thing, then sell them at face value. However, if someone offers you more, I don't think theres anything "wrong" (and I'm not talking the law) with selling something to someone willing to pay more for it. Its not like they don't see the price on the ticket, so if they want to pay more, thats their choice. Just compromise and make a "small" profit.
Posted by tigernchicago
Alabama
Member since Sep 2003
5075 posts
Posted on 5/30/09 at 11:45 am to
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Now, if you're serious about this... and you really do have a problem with selling your tickets over face value, then this is kind of a strange question to ask.

Your moral compass says it's not right to sell over face value.

So don't sell over face value. The choice is entirely yours.

In asking whether it's okay or not to sell over face value, what you're really asking is whether or not your peers will think you are foolish for not making a profit on the tickets.

That shouldn't come into play here.

You have the right to do what YOU want according to YOUR standards and beliefs. Forget about what anyone else thinks.

So... just do what YOU feel is right. And you can't go wrong!


This is the best answer. In the long run you have to make choices in life that you will like the next day/week/year when you look at yourself in the morning. It is the best way to make choices in life.
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