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re: Memphis has a live Tiger at games?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:23 am to Ed Osteen
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:23 am to Ed Osteen
quote:The tiger whisperer himself also said taking Mike to the stadium isnt a big deal.....
Amazing how out of touch some of you are to have opinions like this
Truth is its ridiculous. We have already put the fricking wild animal into a cage on campus for our own enjoyment. The virtue signalling of not bringing him in the stadium because its "not what he would want" is amusing to me
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:26 am to Ed Osteen
I was thinking under the road but what ever it would take to allow him to travel between the two habitats.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:27 am to patchesohoulihan_007
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Imagine a 12 year old seeing that. You don’t think that some kid would gravitate towards seeing that majestic animal and dedicate his life to helping them repopulate.
Did it inspire you to dedicate your life to helping Tigers repopulate? Right, it didn’t.. you, as an lsu fan & non Veterinarian, are just making assumptions without any sort of proof for your dumb argument. The combination of fireworks & being in a tight cage in front of 100k screaming fans caused stress issues. Why would you want that for our beloved Mike?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:32 am to HappyTigerDay
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The combination of fireworks & being in a tight cage in front of 100k screaming fans caused stress issues
Stop with the fireworks then.
I'd rather Mike in the stadium.
There's nothing wrong with parading him around and parking him in front of the visitors locker room.
He seems to be just fine in his habitat with people crowded around him for every football and basketball game.
The excuse used to be that they wouldn't make him go in the cage, so if he didn't go into it, then he didn't go to the game. He had to willfully go into the cage. That was 2 Mikes ago, and i doubt they still try that out. Get his big arse in the cage and get him in the stadium.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:38 am to TeddyPadillac
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Stop with the fireworks then. I'd rather Mike in the stadium.
Nobody above 20 or so rows up can see him. For the other 90,000.. the fireworks are the better attraction to start the game. These 12 year olds you speak of can’t see Mike unless they’re sitting down low.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:39 am to Tigris Christi
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I was thinking under the road but what ever it would take to allow him to travel between the two habitats.
I would bet good money he'd never go to the habitat inside the stadium during a game with all the noise.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:39 am to HappyTigerDay
Take your 12 year old, everyone has one apparently, to his really fancy and built for viewing habitat on gameday. Think that's the whole point.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:43 am to Capo
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Memphis is now the only school to have a live tiger mascot present at football games.[3] TOM attends Memphis Tiger home games at Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium in a special sound proof, air conditioned trailer.[4][2]
Link? If this is all true, this makes David Baker look like even more of a pussy.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:45 am to RidiculousHype
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When you say Dr. Baker is correct, do you mean when he said the stadium didn't stress out Mike? Or is there an article quoting Baker as saying the opposite?
Dude, just stop.
This is about LSU keeping tigers on campus after the current Mike is gone.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:49 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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f you want to have LSU acquiring tigers into the future, the best way is to have a certified tiger sanctuary. In order to get that certification, you can't roll him around the stadium in a trailer anymore. (Nor can you walk him around the stadium on a leash like you would for Bevo, Ralphie, Reveille or UGA. It's a fricking TIGER for God's sake.)
It's not about PETA, it's not about SJWs, it's about adults determining what's in the best interests of having tigers on campus into the future.
So, why can Memphis do it? Cause they don't keep the tiger on campus?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:59 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Dude, just stop.
This is about LSU keeping tigers on campus after the current Mike is gone.
3-4 different posters have cited Dr. Baker as the reason Mike doesn't come into the stadium anymore. And yet, the only article I can find online says Baker doesn't believe the stadium stressed the tiger out.
Now, if Baker has changed his mind or if there are other reasons Mike can't come into the stadium (as you alluded to), then fine. But people shouldn't be misrepresenting Dr. Baker's position. That's all.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:00 am to whoisnickdoobs
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So, why can Memphis do it? Cause they don't keep the tiger on campus?
Please post pics of memphis’ on campus enclosure.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:26 am to RidiculousHype
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Has Dr. Baker changed his position since then? I'm seriously asking, maybe he did.
That quote was for Mike VI. One of the conditions of acquiring Mike VI was that he would not be forced into the trailer. SOURCE
Dr. Baker was honoring that promise without shifting blame to the original owner (knowing people such as yourself would immediately starting laying into the guy).
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:28 am to SaveFarris
I agree that Baker makes it pretty clear through context (sarcasm/tone) that he thinks it’s a stupid question & thinks it should be obvious to anyone that it stresses the Tiger — I’m just saying they did do this at LSU for decades... it wouldn’t kill him (or anyone at LSU) to give an educational/informative public response.
I thought the poster who mentioned Mike VI with the fireworks & Mike VII refusing to get in the cage had a great answer — would love to see sources for that just out of curiosity. The prerequisite for adoption/sanctuary situation makes sense as well.
Anyway TLDR: You can’t assume everyone is familiar with Tigers (or even cats, really). A simple, well-delivered explanation would go a long way in terms of putting an end to this question/topic/PETA blah blah.
I thought the poster who mentioned Mike VI with the fireworks & Mike VII refusing to get in the cage had a great answer — would love to see sources for that just out of curiosity. The prerequisite for adoption/sanctuary situation makes sense as well.
Anyway TLDR: You can’t assume everyone is familiar with Tigers (or even cats, really). A simple, well-delivered explanation would go a long way in terms of putting an end to this question/topic/PETA blah blah.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:29 am to RidiculousHype
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That's all.
Here's all:
Since 2017, LSU is pursuing official tiger sanctuary status.
Dr. Baker is instrumental in achieving that.
What Dr. Baker may have said prior to 2017 may not have any bearing on LSU getting or not getting sanctuary status.
Here's some of what Dr. Baker said just last year:
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“It’s a very serious business to be acquiring an animal on the endangered species list—especially an apex predator,” says Dr. David Baker, LSU’s attending veterinarian who took over the care of Mike V in 1994, then helped locate Mike VI in 2007, and now supervises the care of Mike VII since the big cat arrived on campus last year. More tigers live in captivity or as exotic pets—as many as 7,000 in the U.S., according to some estimates—than in the wild, where only 2,500 Bengal tigers remain, mostly in India and surrounding countries. “There are so many tigers in this country because people breed them irresponsibly,” Baker says. Over-breeding leads to a black-market tiger trade, a cycle with grim outcomes. That’s what propelled LSU to begin seeking out tigers that need to be saved.
Finding Mike VI in 2007, for instance, nearly ran Baker and the university into a legal landmine. “I was twenty-four hours away from flying to the east coast to get a tiger when I was told by a federal agent it had been illegally sold,” Baker says. “Had I brought him to Louisiana, I would’ve been arrested as soon as I stepped off the plane and LSU would have been named in a criminal lawsuit.” The school went back to the drawing board, before legally obtaining a tiger from a sanctuary in Indiana that could not properly care for its cats.
Ten years later, after Mike VI lost a battle with cancer, Baker helped acquire Mike VII—née Harvey—from a Florida sanctuary that was being forced to downsize. Although Baker believes the sanctuary’s then-owner would not have put his fourteen tigers in harm, any potential buyer easily could have. Now, one of those cats is safe inside a 15,000-square-foot habitat, complete with a waterfall and pool, synthetic rocks that can be warmed or cooled, and lush greenspace, adjacent to Tiger Stadium.
LINK
Here's what F'King A. said in 2017:
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“We now have a new mission and that mission is to play a role in conservation,” LSU President F. King Alexander told reporters who gathered for the “official welcome.” The school’s welcome party will be rescheduled for Wednesday or Thursday.
“We’re going to utilize our research expertise and our educational mission as an institution to perhaps save one of the world’s best known and most regal creatures on earth,” Alexander said.
LINK
Being an official sanctuary makes it easier for other sanctuaries to transfer animals to your facility, and you don't have to go to private parties of questionable ethics to get animals.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:31 am to DeathByTossDive225
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I’m just saying they did do this at LSU for decades...
You know what else they did for decades:
* fielded all-white teams.
* allow smoking in the stands.
* let people bring knives into the stadium.
* ran the toss dive 20 times a game (this tradition has only been dead for a month or so).
Some traditions are best left in the past.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:39 am to SaveFarris
I mean... I agree, but did you really just pluck “LSU did do this for years” from...
“Dr Baker’s tone makes it clear he thinks this is a stupid question, but LSU did do it for years, therefore it wouldn’t hurt him to give an informative/educational public response”
My point, obviously, was simply that it warranted a statement more substantial than “this won’t be happening anymore”, because it was a long-running tradition — the fact that I understand this as relevant doesn’t make it a defense of the practice.
Sub-par PR on their part, and probably the main reason the topic is still contentious/relevant here — but the appropriate moment for them to formally address it has passed.
“Dr Baker’s tone makes it clear he thinks this is a stupid question, but LSU did do it for years, therefore it wouldn’t hurt him to give an informative/educational public response”
My point, obviously, was simply that it warranted a statement more substantial than “this won’t be happening anymore”, because it was a long-running tradition — the fact that I understand this as relevant doesn’t make it a defense of the practice.
Sub-par PR on their part, and probably the main reason the topic is still contentious/relevant here — but the appropriate moment for them to formally address it has passed.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:47 am to TigerBogue
Yeah.
This is not just a PETA issue.
Our own vets say it is not good to bring the tiger out in front of 100,000 screaming people.
Do you not understand that? Or do you just not give a shite about the animal?
This is not just a PETA issue.
Our own vets say it is not good to bring the tiger out in front of 100,000 screaming people.
Do you not understand that? Or do you just not give a shite about the animal?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:10 pm to emanresu
This is what used to be done for years and years ! Park Mike at the visitors tunnel and as they come out on the field the handlers would get Mike to roar and scare the sh-t out of the opposing team ! This is what is missing at LSU football games. It does make a difference ! 
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