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Mel Kiper Big Board and Mock Draft

Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by TigerSprings
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Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:37 pm
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Mel does the 1st Round and Top 5 of every position. Top 10 of QBs.

Maason Smith and Wingo are 4 and 5 on the DL list.

Missing are Jayden Daniels and Malik Nabers.

This seems to go against the Sunshine Pumpers.
Do the pre-season Pumpers admit they were a little too optimistic? Esp. on JD5?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26696 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:39 pm to
The idea that Daniels was ever an NFL QB was always misguided at best, and delusional at worst.

But hey, at least his awesome athletic ability can get us out of a hole that his shitty passing put us in!
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7299 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:41 pm to
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The idea that Daniels was ever an NFL QB was always misguided at best, and delusional at worst.



This whole statement is called into question when a guy like Anthony Richardson is drafted 4th overall.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:44 pm to
Where are all the people that say Daniels is a high draft pick or will be a good NFL QB?

There are countless good college QB’s that weren’t high draft picks.
Posted by tigerfan5803
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Member since Dec 2005
4522 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:44 pm to
Mel "I'll see you at Mike Williams Hall of Fame Induction" Kiper didn't put people on his top 10 list? Tragic
Posted by BayouBuckwheat87
in a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:46 pm to
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This whole statement is called into question when a guy like Anthony Richardson is drafted 4th overall.



Every thing that scouts found intriguing about Richardson, JD does not possess.

Absolute Cannon for an arm, freak athleticism, built like a linebacker.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

This whole statement is called into question when a guy like Anthony Richardson is drafted 4th overall.


Richardson has a good arm and is a pocket passer. Daniels is neither.
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1569 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:48 pm to
Daniels was 10x the Qb Richardson was last year. So to say he can’t be drafted late is delusional.
Although, the upside Richardson has is undoubtedly crazy higher which is why he went so high.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35744 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:49 pm to
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freak athleticism
have you not seen Jayden play? and cannon for an arm is the most overrated trait a QB can have. That is nothing without accuracy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47791 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:51 pm to
If you think Daniels is anywhere near as talented as Richardson you’re proving that posters point.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26696 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:51 pm to
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This whole statement is called into question when a guy like Anthony Richardson is drafted 4th overall.


You think Richardson and Daniels are remotely similar?

They are both black and can run. That's where the similarities end. Richardson has prototypical NFL QB size and has a rocket arm, which NFL GMs have always been enamored with.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35963 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:52 pm to
How did Mason Smith get on the list?
That alone calls the entire list into question.
Posted by BayouBuckwheat87
in a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2023
1373 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:53 pm to
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have you not seen Jayden play? and cannon for an arm is the most overrated trait a QB can have. That is nothing without accuracy.



Jayden is a great athlete. I don't think you'd call it freak athleticism at the professional level though.

And I agree that arm strength can be an overrated trait. But it's absolutely a big part of what got AR drafted 4th overall, which is what I was responding to.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

This whole statement is called into question when a guy like Anthony Richardson is drafted 4th overall.


Richardson’s raw talent is off the charts. Daniels would need Stetson Bennett/Desmond Ridder levels of production to be drafted high.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26696 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Daniels was 10x the Qb Richardson was last year.


Max Duggan and Stetson Bennett were better than both last year and neither are currently on active NFL rosters.

What is your point?
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4780 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:56 pm to
Malik Nabers will be taken in the 1st round. That doesn’t mean he’s a top 5 wr
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47791 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:57 pm to
10 times? No
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

How did Mason Smith get on the list?
That alone calls the entire list into question.


Isaiah Foskey for the Saints had incredible production at ND. If you were Saints GM would you trade him for Smith right now?
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:01 pm to
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Malik Nabers will be taken in the 1st round

I really like Nabers, so I hope so. But 6 WRs in the first round is a lot.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8611 posts
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

This seems to go against the Sunshine Pumpers.


So Mel Kiper is 100% all the time? Even half the time?
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