re: McMahon quote after Texas Tech loss

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I watch a lot of basketball and not just LSU. We have not had the talent of other schools

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Is it possible that the players aren't that bad but they are just being poorly coached.

LSU just fired a football coach who was underperforming with what was thought to be a really talented team. Maybe all of those players WERE just really bad. Or maybe Kelly should have consulted with McMahon to figure out the secret to producing unsatisfactory results yet never being blamed for them.

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i don't care what the rankings say.

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Yet, the rankings seem to matter in April, May, June as the basis for saying, every offseason "this is going to be McMahon's best team"...only for the season to happen and those talented players in the spring suddenly turn into no talent bums.

Including this year, LSU will have had nearly 40 different players play for the program over the last 4 years. Yet, somehow the rankings that every year put LSU's roster within the middle of the SEC are always horribly wrong at the end of the season.

Perhaps when trying to diagnose the root cause of a problem it's more likely the one constant could be the root cause rather than the 40 different variables.

Appointing yourself as the arbiter of truth isn’t a real argument

Yes, once again we are told we have players recruited for their shooting and outside shooting won't be a problem this year. And yet it is? How can we consistently get guys that can't shoot consistently? Last year it was Sears who came in with a career over 50% from three and shot less than 30% with us. Only Carter was over 30% and our only consistent shooter. This year it is McKinnon in a seemingly endless slump and sinking lower ever game. We don't coach players up, we give them a place to come and fail. King doesn't even attempt many shots when he comes in. Why are all our shooters so timid and afraid to shoot? Time and time again we see them pass up relatively good shots, until late in the shot clock we shoot a desperation one. Even our big men under the basket hesitate before going straight up for a shot or dunk?

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The offense we run doesn’t produce

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88 points per game average

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Time and time again we see them pass up relatively good shots, until late in the shot clock we shoot a desperation one. Even our big men under the basket hesitate before going straight up for a shot or dunk?

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nwoko is very aggressive and shoots and makes baskets aggressively. he never hesitates and is incredibly reliable from down low.

the last two games the team has found plenty of open shots and taken missed them. they have only shot desperation shots one of two times.

they have been missing open shots. the offense is running fine to create shots. just have been missing them. but really only for two games. no reason they wont start making them.

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88 points per game average

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Against the Little Sisters of the Poor.

First team they played with a pulse BLEW THEM OUT (and that will be a preview of coming attractions)

Against HS teams, 68ppg vs P5 teams and one was an overtime game.

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Yet with that lack of talent was in most of the games late against ranked SEC teams

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Not sure which games you watched.

Tl;dr
LSU was within 1 possession late in the game only 5 SEC games last season. fricking pathetic.

Here is a list detailing the closest LSU was with <5 minutes left by SEC game.

vs Vandy - down 3 with 3:24 left (lost by 8)
@ Mizzou - down 13 with 1:28 left (lost by 16)
@ Ole Miss - down 12 at the end of the game
vs Arkansas - Win, held the lead from 9:46 on. Won by 4.
@ A&M - down 8 with 1:30 left (lost by 11)
@ Bama - down 5 with 3:56 left (lost by 7).
vs Auburn - down 9 with 3:48 (lost by 13)
vs Texas - down 23 with 5:00 left (lost by 31)
@ Georgia - down 13 with 3:01 left (lost by 19)
vs Ole Miss - UP 11 points with 3:15 left, which was also the last time LSU scored in this game (lost by 2)
@Arkansas - down 8 with 4:52 left (lost by 12)
@OU - Win, took the lead with 8 seconds left. Won by 3.
vs USC - Win, largest lead was 20 (Won by 14)
vs Florida - Down 4 at the 5:00 mark. Made it a 4 point game at 5:58, didn't score again until 1:56 (lost by 14) - not giving credit for this one.
vs Tenn - down 5 with 0:12 left (lost by 6). Was a 10 point game with 1:00.
@MSU - down 7 with 4:20 (lost by 12). Only scored 3 points in the final 4:20.
@UK - nope (lost by 31, closest was at the end)
vs A&M - down 10 with 3:12 left (lost by 14)

SEC Tourney:
vs MSU - down 29 at 2:52 (lost by 29)


Depends on your definition of competitive. In only 8 SEC games last was LSU within 2 possession in the final 5:00. vs Vandy (down 3), vs Arkansas (won by 4), @Bama (down 5), vs Ole Miss (up 11, lost), @OU (won by 3), vs USC (won by 14), vs Florida (down 4), and vs Tenn (down 5).

You don’t get it, he can lose every game as long as it’s not 30 point losses. Only then can he be considered not good.

If a game was within 12 with 8:00 minutes left, LSU was close to winning. Just got a couple bad bounces.