re: Matt McMahon's LSU MBB Contract

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McMahon came to LSU at the end of the ‘21-‘22 recruiting cycle. He was able to convince 3 players to stay and pick up 3 top 150 high school kids. He also brought over 3 pretty decent kids with him from Murray St. Considering the circumstances, at least on paper, he did a good job assembling a roster of bodies to put on the court.

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Absolutely agree.

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But this team was never going to be very good, and only the very optimistic or uninformed expected otherwise.

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You can't say the former then the latter to exonerate McMahon from blame for this season (to date). He DID put together what should be a decent roster. The "informed" felt that way just as much as "very optimistic" LSU fans. Probably moreso. The SEC was expected to be a very tough conference this year. LSU, without McMahon ever coaching a game, was picked to finish 8th...SOLELY based on the evaluation of the roster. Many, many national writers/analyst felt McMahon put together a solid roster. Many felt LSU could be a team to find themselves on the NCAAT bubble in March. Some projected LSU to make the NCAAT (as one of the last few teams in). That wasn't delusional LSU fans making those predictions

What many want to say now is "McMahon didn't have a chance. This is just a bad roster". Go back and look at posts from May, June, July, August, October. VERY FEW of those same posters thought it was a "horrible" roster then. The reality is the roster STILL isn't horrible. McMahon has just done that bad of a job with it. 1-9 in SEC play with eight straight losses by double-digits. The SEC quickly adjusted to McMahon's approach/game-plan following the Kentucky game, and McMahon has shown zero ability or (seemingly) desire to try to adjust. It is as if he just long accepted defeat and just wants to go through the rest of the season bending over. He has been maybe the least competitive coach I've ever seen. We've had a few times recently (notably vs. Texas Tech and Alabama) where LSU was down in the final 2 minutes or so, but not by a totally unreachable margin (7 vs. Tech; 10 vs. Alabama). Every other coach in America would have been pressing in those situations. Trying to create turnovers. Trying to create more possessions. Trying to get into the offense quickly to get quick shots. Instead, McMahon was completely content to drop back in his regular defense to let the opponent milk the shot clock. He was happy to just run the slog of a half court offense he runs while more time just ticked off the game clock before LSU put up a shot. More precisely, he was just content to accept defeat. Given the margin of the lead and the time remaining, it was likely LSU was going to lose those games anyway. But don't just throw your hands up and say "oh well". At least show your team you are willing to fight. How can you create a winning culture when you seem content to accept defeat so easily?

The 2019 game vs Missouri was brought up last week ahead of this year's game vs. Missouri. In that 2019 game LSU was down 14 with 2:10 remaining. They were not very good that entire game. But did they just say "oh well, it wasn't our night"? No, they pressed. They sped up the offense. They fouled to create extra possessions. They clawed and scrapped until the end and shockingly erased a 14 point lead in 2:00. Now, if LSU is down 7 with 2:00 to go McMahon is content to just pack it up and go home.

LSU isn't competitive right now. And outside of a few players here any there, they aren't even showing a lot of desire to be competitive. Least of whom is their fricking head coach.

This is on McMahon, and any attempts to say otherwise is revisionist bullshite in an effort to defend the current HC at all costs because of a dislike for the former HC.

It was set up like this to give him some security and shows that the AD understands what position the program was in.

"This team hasn’t really be competitive in ANY SEC games since Kentucky loss."


What an incredibly ignorant statement which shows just how delusional LSU fans are. They have been competitive against Tenn, Mizzou and AL. 3 of the best teams in the SEC If you don't see that you are just a bitter idiot. Bama has a lottery pick and we still competed and had an opportunity to actually win at the end of the game but we don't have the talent Bama has. Period. MM has shown that he can still coach up a team that has lost 9 in a row which is incredibly hard to do. He gets his 3 years to rebuild and make this team more competitive then he can be judged. And the idiots that think Woodward could have done better under the circumstances are just pissing in the wind.

Yeah but he sucks at recruiting. That's the big problem. Unless he can pull a miracle out of the transfer portal this team will be worse. Don't care how good of a coach you are if you can't recruit talent it's pointless in NCAA ball. That's 50% of the game right there.

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what's idiotic is the people who think LSU can attract the same coaches in basketball as they do in football and baseball. Who the hell was coming here with the sanctions hanging over?

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It's the Playstation Fanboys who believe that anything short of murder should be allowed in College sports.

Call them out on their criticism and their egos become as fragile as rice paper.

They should let us all know when CMM gets caught on an FBI wiretap bragging about how big of an idiot cheat he is.

That’s true.

The recruits and coaches the players, who would you like to blame?

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What an incredibly ignorant statement which shows just how delusional LSU fans are. They have been competitive against Tenn, Mizzou and AL. 3 of the best teams in the SEC If you don't see that you are just a bitter idiot. Bama has a lottery pick and we still competed and had an opportunity to actually win at the end of the game but we don't have the talent Bama has. Period. MM has shown that he can still coach up a team that has lost 9 in a row which is incredibly hard to do. He gets his 3 years to rebuild and make this team more competitive then he can be judged. And the idiots that think Woodward could have done better under the circumstances are just pissing in the wind.

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yeah he loves to over spend real bad. no established coach was coming to LSU basketball at that point. The contract is absurd but realistically the hire was going to always be mediocre at best

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Your own logic makes no sense. If the hire was mediocre then why give him such a great contract. He could have hired a high school coach for two years at $200,000 a year and the team wouldn't be any worse. Hard to imagine a "non established" coach who could do as bad and possibly would be better. McMahon was the safe hire and looked good on paper but obviously doesn't know how to recruit in the SEC or work the refs or many other things like tell your team to shoot when they get an open 12 footer.