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re: Matt McMahon's LSU MBB Contract

Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45698 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:43 pm to
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McMahon should get more time and he had to acquire almost the entire roster. Expecting him to acquire a really good roster under those circumstances in year one, especially with the unknown NCAA fallout, is unrealistic.


Again yall can stop with this bullshite excuse. Every other thread the same thing has been disproven. There are plenty of other teams across the country that went through the same if not more turnover and are putting together atleast halfway decent teams.

Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6511 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:46 pm to
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per year who pays the other 80%+ of his compensation and what does it entail?

TAF
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37732 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Ridiculous contract given to McMahon by Woodward.

Many on here praise Woodward; it's insane the contract he gave McMahon and now we are stuck with him for a long time. All Woodward does is throw insane money at various coaches. Look what he did to A&M with Jimbo. He may have lucked out with B Kelly and J Johnson, but so far, it's pretty clear he bombed completely with McMahon.
yeah he loves to over spend real bad. no established coach was coming to LSU basketball at that point. The contract is absurd but realistically the hire was going to always be mediocre at best
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 4:54 pm
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1616 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:05 pm to
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Ridiculous contract given to McMahon by Woodward. Many on here praise Woodward; it's insane the contract he gave McMahon and now we are stuck with him for a long time. All Woodward does is throw insane money at various coaches. Look what he did to A&M with Jimbo. He may have lucked out with B Kelly and J Johnson, but so far, it's pretty clear he bombed completely with McMahon.


How is using context so hard for some people? The circumstance of LSU hiring McMahon is not like other situations. McMahon held pretty much all the contract negotiation leverage. Other schools wanted McMahon (I know hard to believe but it’s true). If LSU identified Matt as someone they thought could be a really good long term fit then it makes sense. In order for LSU to secure his signature against other teams interviewing him it was going to take security for McMahon with length and protection against his inability to recruit/compete with any level 1 sanctions and being able to keep his job through all those things. He tells Woodward what he wants and in this scenario, Woodward doesn’t really have a choice (if he thinks he is a good fit), given no proven coach at a sitting P5 school was going to take the job. Hard situation to be in if your SW.

Now, McMahon may not work out. You don’t hit on every hire but that’s a different conversation. The contract he got is what any coach was getting with the uncertainty.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted by TimmyTigah
f where u from
Member since Sep 2015
575 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:06 pm to
Not in the top 50 nationally in recruiting. Even Johnny Jones did better than that!
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2791 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:07 pm to
I agree, but would add CKM to that mix, even though it's women's ball. I mean, she's what, 49-6 after taking over a team that finished next to last and averaged 53 points a game.

I can live with that, so I say Woodward has demonstrably gone 3 for 4 so far, and we'll have to see how things go with the men's team. I personally have faith in CMM to turn things around pretty quickly.
Posted by cfotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
823 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:22 pm to
You are hilarious.

You misquote and misstate and then call me the idiot lol.

Buffoons dominate Tiger Droppings. You may be the champ buffoon.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:32 pm to
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He may have lucked out with B Kelly and J Johnson, but so far, it's pretty clear he bombed completely with McMahon.


What does this mean? I didn’t misquote shite.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42838 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:32 pm to
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GeorgeWest
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Matt McMahon's LSU MBB Contract
I had looked this up the other day, I just didn't want to post more - already posted too much imo. I'm a dude that wears his heart on his sleeve. And dealing with RL shite this weekend (an impactful death).

The 7/8 year thing had gone back and forth for a while.

I don't know if I'm going to be posting a lot or not at all. I just figured this was a decent place to post this.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:39 pm to
See my signature line. Once you come to grips with what drives the traffic to this site, you'll feel better about this place.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
7499 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:44 pm to
You cry baby bunch of bitches need to settle down. He is here and he’s not leaving. I can’t imagine the stress some of you morons put on yourself over this. Relax!!! It just not that serious. And when he gets it turned around, stay the frick off of the bandwagon because you’re not real Tiger fans. You should truly be embarrassed by the sheer amount of threads crying over the same old bullshite. You make the situation much worse with your sky screaming. IT’S GOING TO BE OK! Now show us all how stupid you are and down vote away!
Posted by TigerProphet
Thibodaux, La.
Member since Jan 2021
4073 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:48 pm to
If it can be shown he has a meth habit, perhaps that would be cause.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
5560 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:51 pm to
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And yes it is ultimately his fault because he is the person who assembled this roster and brought those players here.
Hey Player A, come to LSU, you know, the school that is potentially facing harsh sanctions. 5 Star Player A, hell yeah I'll sign up for that.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
5560 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:53 pm to
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That said, he is responsible for putting a roster together. So he deserves blame for the fact the season has turned into a disaster. Absolving him of any blame is ridiculous. He deserves most of the blame.
NO. The majority of blame goes to Will Wade!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59399 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:56 pm to
But we did get a 5* player and there are no sanctions.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14116 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:02 pm to
Hey drizz...I have seen so much talk about CMM and his tenure length at LSU, I just thought some basics about his contract would be of interest to some on this board. The figures I posted are not exact, but they give all of us an idea of what it could cost LSU to fire him.

I really like WW and thought he was exactly what LSUMBB needed to right itself. But I am trying to support what CMM is doing but it is not easy.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42838 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Hey drizz...I have seen so much talk about CMM and his tenure length at LSU, I just thought some basics about his contract would be of interest to some on this board. The figures I posted are not exact, but they give all of us an idea of what it could cost LSU to fire him.

I really like WW and thought he was exactly what LSUMBB needed to right itself. But I am trying to support what CMM is doing but it is not easy.


I appreciate your OP and even if not exact, it needed some clarification.

No matter how I come across at times, I want Coach Mc to succeed. Was I a Will Wade fanboy? Of Course. Reasoning is NIT, NCAAT, NCAAT, NCAAT, NCAAT (minus Covid cancelled NCAAT).

This is what we wanted.

I say a lot about drive-by fans and if we're back there again, I'm going to be upset.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21010 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:46 pm to
He going to turn it around with the number 51 class lol

You have to recruit to be decent in the sec.

Mm can’t recruit and he can’t coach. Woody got bent over the barrel and made a shite hire. At least he stopped the mean tweets.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
9882 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:49 pm to
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All Woodward does is throw insane money at various coaches. Look what he did to A&M with Jimbo.

How many times does it have to be stated on here he was doing EXACTLY what the A&M money guys wanted?

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He may have lucked out with B Kelly and J Johnson, but so far, it's pretty clear he bombed completely with McMahon.

Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4555 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
So when Enron was going the tubes, you idiots on here were probably still thinking they could hire away Exxon’s CEO.
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