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re: Matt Flynn breaks down some plays and simple reads Nuss and OL miss

Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Sloan isnt the problem. He is a problem. Sloan has never been the problem. Since Denbrock left, he’s always been a problem.


FIFY
Posted by chadr07
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:15 am to
So they kept checking out of a run play to pass when Ole Miss continued over and over to drop 8 into coverage with only a 3 man front? That makes total sense
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:00 am to
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So they kept checking out of a run play to pass when Ole Miss continued over and over to drop 8 into coverage with only a 3 man front?

I didn’t say that. I said we don’t know what happened. Every now and then I watch some insightful play analyses from someone who knows what he is talking about - there is a good one by Matt Flynn this week. I’m always amazed at what is really going on that we fans have no idea about. And Matt only covered pre-snap reads; there are other unknowns like what players are ineffective due to injury, what pre-game scouting showed the staff, etc. The point is that the coaches are armed with a lot of data we are not, plus things are happening on the field we are unaware of.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:19 am to
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Sloan isnt the problem. Sloan has never been the problem


Only morons speak in absolutes. Sloan is most certainly a part of the problem.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:02 am to
I’ve said it all year that Sloan deserves some blame but these plays have been there for Nuss all year he’s just not seeing it correctly or the protection is not set correctly.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:04 am to
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Sloan isnt the problem. Sloan has never been the problem.


Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36275 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:12 am to
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It’s probably a collision of how he was trained as a young person and how he’s being coached now. It was a pre snap mistake and if it was made based on a Mike ID from someone else that’s a result of conflicting philosophies. He’s probably trusting how he’s been coached from a kid so he can anticipate which was obviously the wrong thing to do in that situation.


Even if the play was an RPO, that’s still not a good place to call it. That’s one for between the 15s where you have a little more space to operate.

If we are calling a pass inside the 5, it needs to heavily involve Green, either as an iso target like in the Clemson game, or a decoy to stress the defense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:14 am to
Agree
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:05 am to
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Maybe they called 20 runs and checked out because of the defense. How do we know?

Then Joe Sloan should’ve told Nuss to quit checking out of runs and if he continued to do so he should have benched him.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15449 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:17 am to
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Nuss turns it over out of fear most of the time.


I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s fear. But he does absolutely fricking panic back there and it causes a lot of turnovers. The gunslinger name he’s tagged with is incorrectly applied.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1933 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:06 am to
If you watch several LSU football YouTube rs you'll see that's the problem. To me it's not scheme it's execution. That's a coaching problem.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:12 am to
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Sloan taking more heat than he deserves maybe?


Nope

Vs the worst run D, he called 2…2 rushing plays in 1 half.

If players aren’t executing, part of the blame is on his coaching.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:51 am to
That was good to show what happened on the goaline pick. You have the center making the Mike ID, then Nuss counts it out and determines we’re 1 on 1, zero so he throws the middle slant. Next time we’re in a situation like that look for some motion to give the QB a more accurate read.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 10:52 am
Posted by Neauxla_Tiger
Member since Feb 2015
2109 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 12:16 pm to
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quote:
Sloan taking more heat than he deserves maybe?

Nope. LSU ran the ball with a running back twice in the 1st half against the worst rush defense in the SEC.


Yep, and I have to point out that of those two runs, one of them was late in the 2nd Quarter on 3rd and 20. We basically conceded the drive and tried to get a few extra yards of field position for the punt. So I don't even count that. Therefore our RBs got exactly ONE carry the whole first half vs. the worst rush D in the SEC.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1845 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 12:28 pm to
If the LT and TE dont whiff on blocks, walk in TD.

It wasn't a bad call considering Nuss almost threw an Int right before that play.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Completely different era of football. Nuss’ stats aren’t gonna be much better this season at the current pace lmao
A lot of people have revisionist history on Flynn. Yes we won with him, but Perriloux likely would have been in the running for the heisman playing that season with that offense. Flynn completed something like 56% percent of his passes. His TD to int ratio was 2:1. Im not saying he didn't have some clutch plays that year, but he was 100% VERY inefficient. Matt Flynn was a worse version of Tee Martin in that Tennessee championship year.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:18 pm to
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No more like you saying Kyren Lacey was much better than Brian Thomas Jr. you know fact vs fiction
Both of yall were wrong as hell though.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:19 pm to
But his allegation is false. What I said after the FSU loss in 2023 was “if you’re gonna call the game that way you might as well play the other QB” it was a critique on us not using JDs legs vs FSU not a call to bench him. That poster has tried to twist that into something else.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Sloan isn't the problem. Sloan has never been the problem.


Sloan is one of, if not the, worst play callers in the entire conference. He's wasted more talent on this team over the last two years than anyone could imagine. He is predictable, non-creative, and cannot adjust to save his life.

He is by far the biggest problem on this offense, but hey, let's just say it is all Nuss' fault.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29321 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Yea listen to Lester the liar. That’ll get you far in life lol
Lester isn't lying though. i know most of you by username who trashed the hell out of JD, propping up Nuss here and there, then went into hiding during his heisman run.
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