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Mainstream Sports Media Reaction- BK vs LR

Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:17 pm
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17047 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:17 pm
I’m amused reading/hearing all this garbage regarding BK making a ‘lateral move’ from ND to LSU. Remind me how many National Championships has ND won in the 2000’s. This is far from a ‘lateral move’. It’s a significant step up for him, and will give him an opportunity to prove his true value against SEC competition, instead of floundering at ND.

Riley moving from Oklahoma to USC is at the bare minimum at lateral move. In my opinion, it’s a significant step backward and he should be being blasted for it. He’s running from the upcoming challenges that the SEC will be for OU and choosing the soft option out west where the competition is almost nothing, just like the interest in college football in the West. Whether he succeeds or fails, USC will never matter in the NCAA National Title picture.
Posted by MS_Tigers07
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2015
1318 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:27 pm to
Not to mention Riley pillaging that OU recruiting class leaving them in a very tough spot with 2 weeks until early signing day. But BK is the bad guy for wanting to coach in the SEC.
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
President of the OT as of 5/26/11
Member since Nov 2008
24252 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:28 pm to
Many in the national media, particularly those from/in the Midwest and Northeast, have been told their whole lives that Notre Dame is the University of College Football ™ and all that is right and good about the sport; it’s clear more time is needed for them to realize that’s no longer the case, and hasn’t been for quite some time.

Until they come they come to terms with reality, you can expect them to continue to look down on some dirty school from the South stealing the previous King of South Bend.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10561 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Not to mention Riley pillaging that OU recruiting class leaving them in a very tough spot with 2 weeks until early signing day. But BK is the bad guy for wanting to coach in the SEC.

Riley is a snake. He made it an emphasis to build up OU’s West Coast recruiting, making plenty of trips out there. Oh gee I wonder why.

He has assistant coaches with him on his flight out to USC, and other assistants still recruiting for him on OU’s dime. If I was an OU fan I’d hate his guts.
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2145 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Riley moving from Oklahoma to USC is at the bare minimum at lateral move. In my opinion, it’s a significant step backward and he should be being blasted for it. He’s running from the upcoming challenges that the SEC will be for OU and choosing the soft option out west where the competition is almost nothing, just like the interest in college football in the West. Whether he succeeds or fails, USC will never matter in the NCAA National Title picture.


L.O.L. You might think Riley is a huge vagina - which he is. But USC is a way better program than Oklahoma. In California he’ll have access to as much or more potential NFL talent as any school in America, including LSU. They are 2 recruiting cycles away from being a top 5 program if Riley can recruit like Pete Carroll did. There’s like 3,000 high schools in California. Think about that.

If he can recruit and coach, USC will be back on top in no time.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 10:35 pm
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
836 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:48 pm to
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They are 2 recruiting cycles away from being a top 5 program if Riley can recruit like Orgeron did for Pete Carroll did.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1625 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:00 am to
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In California he’ll have access to as much or more potential NFL talent as any school in America, including LSU. They are 2 recruiting cycles away from being a top 5 program if Riley can recruit like Pete Carroll did.


Man, it’s almost like we’ve heard this song and dance before. Lane and Steve say hello!
Posted by batmax
Member since Jan 2021
12 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:07 am to
Are you kidding this is not a lateral move it's a downgrade. ND is a national brand a true blue blood that recruits from coast to coast you are comparing it to some little regional university only important to people living in Louisianan?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:39 am to
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I’m amused reading/hearing all this garbage regarding BK making a ‘lateral move’ from ND to LSU. Remind me how many National Championships has ND won in the 2000’s. This is far from a ‘lateral move’. It’s a significant step up for him, and will give him an opportunity to prove his true value against SEC competition, instead of floundering at ND
I can understand you for saying this, but then how do you turn around a say this...
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Riley moving from Oklahoma to USC is at the bare minimum at lateral move. In my opinion, it’s a significant step backward and he should be being blasted for it.
USC is a significant step up. Not only will Riley get top 3 classes there if he is good, if he is good he will keep most of the heavy 5 star poaching away from there. Bryce Young would be at USC, as well as Tua (and yes I know he was in Hawaii). No way would we have even gotten Ricks. This guy now has an elite recruiting base so he can get those 5 star defenders yearly, that he never could at Oklahoma.

He may be a snake, but all this will be forgotten about years later when this guy is in a championship game and all the USC fans from around the country come out of hiding. This is the first time in a long while that USC has cared about football enough to pay up to get the cream of the crop. I know you guys hate him, and he is a coward for avoiding the weekly grind of the SEC, but jeez, live in reality.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26664 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:58 am to
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Are you kidding this is not a lateral move it's a downgrade. ND is a national brand a true blue blood that recruits from coast to coast you are comparing it to some little regional university only important to people living in Louisianan?
ND is in a sawed off little area that nobody wants to be in and only the school is appealing. The main reason Freeman was picked as the new HC, outside of his potential as a young up and comer they don't want to lose, is his recruiting. Without a good recruiter there, ND is snake food. Kelly had to improve ND's image as still being a top dog to get guys there. From 1994 to 2011 Notre Dame was only a middling program with just two double digit winning seasons in an 18 year span. They only finished ranked 7 years in that span and only had one top 10 finish.

In that same span LSU finished ranked 12 times with 10 of those 12 times coming from 2000-2001. LSU finished with 10+ wins 8 times in that same ND span with 7 coming between 2001 and 2011. Those 7 times were all top 10 finishes to boot along with 3 national championship appearances and 2 wins.

That blueblood shite is irrelevant nowadays.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:01 am to
Grew up an LSU fan, went to LSU, played in the Tiger Band, have gone to see the Tigers all over the country, and am raising 4 daughters that love LSU. Shoot, we even have a second Christmas tree downstairs at our house that is the "LSU" tree all decked out in purple and gold.

But taking off my purple-tinted glasses for a moment, Notre Dame to LSU could be reasonably described as a lateral move. No, Notre Dame has not won a national title recently, but they haven't been totally worthless either. They have made it to two CFP appearances (one for us). They have incredible history and their own TV deal. People roll their eyes at that, but imagine LSU's athletic budget without the SEC TV deal money.

I'm just saying, let's give some credit where it's due. Notre Dame is a strong program and a coach at ND who is one weekend away from a potential playoff bid leaving to join an LSU team that just basically went .500 for two years after a title ... I mean, it's not that big of a stretch to see it as lateral if you aren't an LSU diehard like all of us.
Posted by batmax
Member since Jan 2021
12 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:42 am to
re. From 1994 to 2011 Notre Dame was only a middling program with just two double digit winning seasons in an 18 year span. They only finished ranked 7 years in that span and only had one top 10 fi--------------------------------------------

History didn't start in 1994 and ended in 2011 for ND my friend. ND has nationwide following for decades..
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
Mississippi River Delta On Mars
Member since Nov 2007
823 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:16 am to
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Man, it’s almost like we’ve heard this song and dance before. Lane and Steve say hello!


Right…

USC isn’t 2 recruiting cycles away from being elite again and top 5 program….. Right now they’re more like 2 cycles of coaches changes away from being a top 5 program playing for titles.

USC isn’t close to being what it was under Pete Carrol and while I think Riley is a good coach, I don’t believe he’s the guy that can rebuild, run and maintain USC at an elite level.

Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12725 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:59 am to
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Are you kidding this is not a lateral move it's a downgrade. ND is a national brand a true blue blood that recruits from coast to coast you are comparing it to some little regional university only important to people living in Louisianan?




Good try
Posted by TaipeiTiger
Taipei, Taiwan
Member since Mar 2019
35 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:08 am to
The narrative of it being a lateral move is why the hire is more significant. Everyone can understand if another program is a step up and why a coach would leave for that.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7958 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:17 am to
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They are 2 recruiting cycles away from being a top 5 program


Pfft... It's going to be at least 5 to 10 years before Riley figures out how to build and run a defense.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 4:57 am to
I don’t think we can downplay the fact that he is getting paid waaaaaaay more money here
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
2596 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:02 am to
I don’t think “a new challenge” is a genuine thing that got Brian Kelly here.
Woodward pulled up with a blank check and offered a gazillion dollars and Kelly said “Ok, bye ND” Kelly probably never thought about being an LSU coach before in his life until Woody pulled up.
All the him hawing about why he left Notre Dame, he never says “cause I got offered too much money to turn down.” but everybody knows that’s why. All the things he’s saying on camera are just coach-speak and new employee speak.
Posted by Rekamyah
Ovadalevee
Member since Jun 2008
1866 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 5:17 am to
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200-2001


Wow! That’s a long damned time!
Posted by K Baw
W Monroe
Member since Jun 2019
345 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:46 pm to
what da fuk?. Bitch we won two nattys while we were lookin for a good coach!
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