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re: Mainieri vs Corbin Head-to-Head Comparison

Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:23 pm to
2016-2017- Vanderbilt 36-25-1 Lost College WS
2017-2018- Vanderbilt 35-27 Lost Super Regional
2018-2019- Vanderbilt 59-12 Won College WS
2019-2020- 13-5

2016-2017- LSU 52-20 lost College WS
2017-2018- LSU 39-27 lost regional
2017/8-2019- LSU 40-26 lost super regional
2019-2020- LSU 12-5
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Manieri has a huge advantage over Corbin -- it's called TOPS.


Vandy has a huge recruiting/scholarship advantage over LSU.

Vandy has a HUUUUGE advantage over LSU regarding value of degree.
Posted by Sissidog02
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:26 pm to
Skip built this, Corbin built his
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:26 pm to
It is still a lot harder as an athlete to get into Vanderbilt than LSU
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:29 pm to
Generically, maybe. Specifically, not so much. All universities have "special enrollment options" for highly desired people.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:30 pm to
And Vanderbilt's are still higher than probably the average student at LSU. They aren't accepting students with an 18 on their ACT like LSU will
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Vandy has a huge recruiting/scholarship advantage over LSU.

Vandy has a HUUUUGE advantage over LSU regarding value of degree.



Baseball is only allowed to give out 11.3 scholarships. Therefore, most players are on 1/2 scholarships. Vanderbilt is about 10 times the cost of LSU. Therefore, those kids who get 1/2 scholarships are required to come up with a lot more money to pay for the rest of their tuition. We're talking 10x's of thousands of dollars.

Tulane used to get around that by giving certain ballplayers full tuition Legislative scholarships. Certain Tulane baseball friendly legislators allowed Tulane to use their legislative scholarships to recruit baseball players. However, they put an end to that a few years back. Or, at least, that's what they claim. Of course, that didn't stop Tulane fans from crying like a bunch of little b!tches and saying that TOPS gave LSU an unfair advantage.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by TIGER62
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:34 pm to
Vandy can offer scholly to students that meet their academic standards but do not have the money to attend. since it is offered to all students they can offer it to baseball players. thus they look for that person to get around limits!
It costs about $75,000 a year to attend the school.
thus they have the #1 & 2 projected players(pitchers) in the upcoming draft. beats topps like a drum & you can go worldwide for players!
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:35 pm to
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tduecen


Thanks for the data.

My OP was just a curiosity thing and thought I'd share.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:39 pm to
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Vandy can offer scholly to students that meet their academic standards but do not have the money to attend. since it is offered to all students they can offer it to baseball players.


That's not "scholarships" - that's need-based grants. And they can only offer these grant using the same financial criteria they use for all students. In most cases, to get a need based grant to a private school your family has to be pretty damn poor. And, unlike football and basketball players, baseball players typically do not come from dirt poor families. Kumer Rocker certainly doesn't come from a dirt poor family
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 6:44 pm
Posted by TIGER62
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 6:55 pm to
'Need based grants" are real boost for the baseball player!
CPM mentioned it before the series this week.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:01 pm to
You think a kid whose dad was an MLB pitcher meets that need? Or Kumar's dad who is a CFB coach?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:08 pm to
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Why do you think no one has dominated college baseball in the last 20 seasons?
Because no one believes they can.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:43 pm to
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Not sure how the per-histories matter.


Seriously?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:45 pm to
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In most cases, to get a need based grant to a private school your family has to be pretty damn poor.


Not when it’s your second year in college and you make it to where you aren’t a dependent of your parents anymore. Boom, you’re poor enough for need based scholarships.
Posted by BilltheTiger
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:47 pm to
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Can we compare just the last 4 years?

Remarkable how similar this is to Lea Miles. People would argue Les' LSU career vs his last 3-4 years when he was clearly on a downward trajectory.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:50 pm to
Vandy has special admissions which the AD can use to get athletes into the college. Vandy athletes do not have to meet the usual Vandy admissions standards.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:54 pm to
Why is it so difficult for folks to understand that even college coaches, making a load of money, burn out. Paul is bunred out. It's time to retire and go coach a youth travel ball team.
Posted by tadelatt
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:03 pm to
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They’ve had very comparable careers, but what matters is what they are right now. Right now, Mainieri isn’t what Corbin is



As in 2021? Or when?
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Not when it’s your second year in college and you make it to where you aren’t a dependent of your parents anymore. Boom, you’re poor enough for need based scholarships.



There's one huge problem with your scenario. They would have to make that rule apply across the board so that all of their students would then be eligible for massive need-based grants even if their parents are multi millionaires. There is no f*cking way on God's green earth that they would do that. They would setting up a system whereby virtually every kid in the school would be going there for free on a need-based grant because every student would claim that their parents are no longer supporting them and they are on their own financially.

There's a great line from the movie Soul Man -- "[The financial aid office] helps students whose parents are poor. Not students whose parents are a$$holes."


Nice try, though.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:39 pm
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