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re: Mainieri quotes on Fontenot are brutal: "he cost us the game"

Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:25 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:25 am to
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Baseball is a game of failure; people who fail 2 of 3 times make the hall of fame
Show me a pitcher or fielder or base stealer this applies to.......that is such a worn out statement, there is so much more to the game than hitting
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:27 am to
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We allowed 15 runs during the first 9 innings. We didn’t deserve to win. Nobody cost us the game. What a loser tossing the blame of a terrible game on one player



There are so many things you could point to that cost us that game. It is completely amateurish to point to one guy. I mean, does PM make any decision in the game? What a fool.

PM is an overrated coach and should not be at LSU.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:28 am to
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And?



just for a bit of context is all. I don't think the full quote is as bad as the subject line of this thread.

I'm no PM fanboy and not a fan of calling out players as a coach, fwiw.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:31 am to
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just for a bit of context is all. I don't think the full quote is as bad as the subject line of this thread.

I think its worse

He spends about a full minute specifically talking about everything Fontenot did wrong and then finishes with "he cost us the game"


It just doesnt make any sense. Mainieri just gets too emotional in those moments and cant control what is coming out of his mouth
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:32 am to
Eh, I think pointing out specific things a player did wrong when directly asked is fine. Comments such as "he cost us the game" I take issue with.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:34 am to
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just for a bit of context is all. I don't think the full quote is as bad as the subject line of this thread.
How dare you imply that Mainieri said something positive about his players!!!
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:37 am to
Sorry what's wrong with a coach telling it like it is? I don't think any player was "thrown under the bus"! Any baseball person knows that "walks kill you," as the mighty Skip said on many occasions; Fontenot didn't purposely try, but he simply lost the game with his ineffective pitching! Everybody saw that, so why the uproar that CPM is throwing him under the bus?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:40 am to
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Sorry what's wrong with a coach telling it like it is?


If you haven't yet realized that people aren't taking issue with what he said, but rather that he said it publicly and not to the player in private, you aren't paying attention.

It's just a bad look for the only professional in the situation to single out someone to take all the blame.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:41 am to
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and not to the player in private


do you know that he didn't?
Posted by convertedtiger
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 am to

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Baseball is a game of failure


quote:

Show me a pitcher or fielder or base stealer this applies to


Jacob Degrom went 10-9 last year and won the Cy Young award.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 am to
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do you know that he didn't?


Would it make it okay to air it out in public if he did? No. He didn't keep it in the room, even if he said something in private. But thank you for the semantics breakdown.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:44 am to
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“My job is to come in and throw strikes,” Fontenot said. “If I'm going to walk the leadoff hitter, it doesn't give us a chance to be successful.”

“This was an important game, something that could help our season tremendously, and they weren't going to give up without a fight," Fontenot said. "They showed that, and I couldn't pull through at the end of the game."

LINK
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:46 am to
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Jacob Degrom went 10-9 last year and won the Cy Young award.


Not a great argument. I mean, the fact that he won the Cy Young reflects that his win/loss record is not an indicator of personal failure.
Posted by stratman
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:47 am to
Mainieri needs to check himself. Fontenot didn't give up the other 15 runs. Had they not given up 475 runs in the 3rd inning, maybe... Mainieri is sensing the walls closing in and is losing his gear here.

A coach should never throw one of his players under the bus like that. Fontenot may have gotten the loss and 4 runs were scored on him in the 10th, he may have had a bad weekend, but he's on the team. If we have any plans for a long post season then we are going to need him and not in a bad state. Mainieri needs to check himself.
Posted by TigerDM
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:49 am to
Mainieri only has himself to blame. Fontenot for the most part has pitched
well his fist appearance of the weekend, but has always pitched poorly his
second appearance. He’s the one who put him out there knowing he’s only
good for one relief appearance per series
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:50 am to
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Blaming your players in public is the weakness thing a coach can do, shameful.


This x 1000. They're not professional athletes. And he directly said "he cost us the game". We gave up 19 fricking runs. Several base running issues. Several defensive miscues. Its not all on Fontenot.

I don't give 3 fricks how this guy recruits. You win as a team and lose as a team. It's a team fricking sport.

This team also has more than enough talent to fricking rally but Paul damn sure wants to make sure he knows how much his guys suck to the media. fricking might as well sabotage the back end of the season huh Paul?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:51 am to
That's a grown up quote by Fontenot, good on him.

I just think that some of the things Mainieri said to the media would be better served to stay in the locker room.

My feelings on this are about as strong as the language I've used. I don't like him airing it out in public, but I'm not going to go overboard about it.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:51 am to
Theres definitely one dbag itt downvoting away facts.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:53 am to
Fontenot didn’t do his job, he knows that. If he had would we have won?
There’s no way to know. We would have had to score to win.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:53 am to
He struck out 269 and walked 46.

He had a 1.7 ERA

He did not fail .666 of the time

I am not sure why you posted that. If his record was 5-10 you would have had the start of a point.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:58 am
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