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re: Mainieri quotes on Fontenot are brutal: "he cost us the game"
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
Paul Mainieri is not a man I would want as the leader of any group my child belonged to.
Whether that be baseball, Boy Scouts or passing out the cookies and milk at snack time.
Whether that be baseball, Boy Scouts or passing out the cookies and milk at snack time.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:41 pm to hashtag
A handful that have talked to other players within the program, former and past, is a little better gauge than a handful of coaches wanting to coach with him. I will take these former players words instead of anyone's on this board. Like I said, it's very well known players that all say the same thing in how they feel, along with other players opinions they have played with. I guess that does make me as stupid as him??
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:41 pm to lsupride87
"He has done a really good job for a long time but struggled today and cost us the game at the end."
Brutal man, Woodward should be fired if he doesn't get rid of CPM by this weekend.
Brutal man, Woodward should be fired if he doesn't get rid of CPM by this weekend.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:42 pm to JDB1318
Yeah it does. You are acting like all of the players who haven't coached with him hate him. Your basis of that is conversations with a few players? How many have you talked to specifically?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:47 pm to djrunner
Thank you for providing the quote. And in context, what he said was not abusive in any way. The OP is misleading, and most here are too lazy and cynical to watch it before posting.
Rant doing rant.
Rant doing rant.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:50 pm to nitwit
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hank you for providing the quote. And in context, what he said was not abusive in any way. The OP is misleading, and most here are too lazy and cynical to watch it before posting.
Rant doing rant.
I agree. Should have listened to it before passing judgment. Still not the way I would have said it but far different than what the op lead us to believe.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:51 pm to hashtag
No, I clearly said that the majority of them don't care for him. My step brother pitched for him and went to the CWS. He was a high draft pick and has teammates that he still hangs out with, stood in a few of their weddings. The consensus of the majority of former players is what I stated. I've been in the middle of a conversation with 9 or 10 of them, who at the time, were all signed to MLB contracts or signed to their Minor League teams. These are the type of players who would normally have good things to say about him. It's very well known among the former players. I guess you know more because you can call me stupid on the internet.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:55 pm to JDB1318
10 players is not close to the majority of guys that he's coached at LSU. You have no way of knowing if the majority of players feel that way. But keep saying things that aren't facts as if they are.
The majority of posters here think you're a moron. I personally know a few dozen posters here and they told me. So, it must be true.
The majority of posters here think you're a moron. I personally know a few dozen posters here and they told me. So, it must be true.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 5:59 pm to lsupride87
I think this does as much to explain this team's underperformance as anything. Would you want to play for THAT guy?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:02 pm to lsupride87
Bottom line is, outside of the locker room, players win games, coaches lose them.
While I agree 1 billion percent that he shouldn't have walked the leadoff, light him up on the mound or in the locker room, not in the media. CPM is a puss
While I agree 1 billion percent that he shouldn't have walked the leadoff, light him up on the mound or in the locker room, not in the media. CPM is a puss
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:07 pm to Geauxlden Eagle
He didn't light him up. Go watch the interview yourself.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:07 pm to hashtag
For someone who is calling me stupid, you can't read into things too well. I never said 10 players is a majority. If you really think these guys don't talk and give each other their opinions on how they feel about a former coach, then that's your opinion. If you have former players that are playing at the next level feel that way about him, then you can bet that the majority of the former players feel the same way. Go look at other college coaches and see how many of their former players come out and talk good about them or quote them in interviews about being a part of their success or giving them life lessons. Joe Scheuermann at Delgado is someone who former players have high opinions of. Tony Robichaux at ULL and Roger Cador at Southern as well. It's not that hard to see how the players, current and former, feel about him. Either way, I've said my two cents. We can both have our own opinion.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:11 pm to JDB1318
quote:I thought we were discussing facts. Didn't realize that I was supposed to read into things that aren't based in facts and then try to pass them off as facts. Obviously I've lost this argument since I'm unable to ascertain the consensus of 100+ players by "reading into things" instead of using facts (that don't exist).
For someone who is calling me stupid, you can't read into things too well.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:26 pm to JDB1318
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A handful that have talked to other players within the program, former and past, is a little better gauge than a handful of coaches wanting to coach with him. I will take these former players words instead of anyone's on this board.
someone else ITT (or one of the countless other sky screaming threads) said he, too, had talked to multiple former players (including his nephew) and they said the complete opposite of what you're saying. So you tell me why we should believe you and not him? Or maybe we should believe neither one of you and let the gossip queens continue to spread rumors they read on a message board like it's the unadulterated truth.
Bottom line, I find it hard to believe that a coach who is hated by his former would continue to recruit like Mainieri has. I don't care whether or not LSU is an elite baseball program, he would not continue to recruit like he does if he's an a-hole that everyone hates.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:33 pm to lsupride87
Honestly, it wasn’t that bad.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:41 pm to Tiger1988
It's never as bad as the way it is portrayed on here. The people that want Mainieri gone look for reasons to justify that belief and will psychoanalyze everything he says and present what he says in the most negative way anyone could possibly interpret it. And I thought political commentary was bad, wrong.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:42 pm to lsufball19
You don't have to believe me, I was just giving my two cents on the interactions I had with former players. I am curious as to the statement that is the direct opposite of what I said. Interesting to say the least, if that statement was made and it's accurate. As far as the recruiting statement goes, absolutely LSU Baseball recruits itself. It's no different than working for a fortune 500 company and having an a-hole as your boss. It's a status symbol for ANY high school baseball player to get recruited and play for LSU. Not to mention, do you really think he's going into these houses being an arse to the kid and parents, while he is recruiting him.
Recruiting is a very shady and deceiving game. Like I told the other guy, you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth to try and convince you how the former players I've talked to feel about him. I do feel that if he was really well liked and loved by former players, you would see a lot more of them make public statements about him or be seen with him on campus when they're back in town.
Recruiting is a very shady and deceiving game. Like I told the other guy, you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth to try and convince you how the former players I've talked to feel about him. I do feel that if he was really well liked and loved by former players, you would see a lot more of them make public statements about him or be seen with him on campus when they're back in town.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:44 pm to hashtag
Well this isn’t the first thread about the coach throwing the players under bus. Just curious if all these other threads were mis quoted too?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:48 pm to hashtag
quote:I posted the interview in the Op for a reason. I see a droopy moping pussy making excuses, not a general lighting a fire
Go watch the interview yourself.
I have said it all year CPM seems depressed
Posted on 5/6/19 at 6:50 pm to JDB1318
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I was just giving my two cents on the interactions I had with former players
you were doing a little more than that...
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I am curious as to the statement that is the direct opposite of what I said. Interesting to say the least, if that statement was made and it's accurate.
whoever it was said that his nephew either pitched or is currently a pitcher for Paul and that every time he hears someone say that all the players hate him that he rolls his eyes and says that couldn't be further from the truth.
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As far as the recruiting statement goes, absolutely LSU Baseball recruits itself.
This is where you and I won't agree. Sure it helps, but if a coach builds the reputation that players hate him, then no players won't continue to come. Many great programs across college sports have done poorly and recruited poorly with poor coaches.
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It's no different than working for a fortune 500 company and having an a-hole as your boss. It's a status symbol for ANY high school baseball player to get recruited and play for LSU.
LSU isn't the only place elite college players can play and with every game being on TV now, exposure isn't the sell it once was. These players don't have one "fortune 500" offer, they have multiple. All else being equal, if one elite program has a coach with the reputation of being disliked by his players and another doesn't, where do you think said prospect is going to go?
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Not to mention, do you really think he's going into these houses being an arse to the kid and parents, while he is recruiting him.
Do you really think these elite high school prospects don't know players currently playing? Do you think they don't talk?
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I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth to try and convince you how the former players I've talked to feel about him.
That's exactly what you've done here
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I do feel that if he was really well liked and loved by former players, you would see a lot more of them make public statements about him or be seen with him on campus when they're back in town.
I see Anthony Randaudo, Alex Bregman, among others, come back to visit all the time. Blake Dean talks about how much of a mentor Paul was to him as a player and a coach.
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