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re: LSU would be in the Playoff over UGA if we won out
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:35 am to LSUTitan99
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:35 am to LSUTitan99
There would need to be zero undefeated teams and LSU would have to have decisive wins over Alabama and Georgia.
By decisive, I mean looking good on both sides the ball.
By decisive, I mean looking good on both sides the ball.
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:38 am to LSUTitan99
Alabama will be in the playoffs
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:43 am to atltiger6487
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I'm optimistic too, but also realistic. You can't let emotional optimism overtake rational thought. In any aspect of life.
First of all, I disagree your first statement here based on your absolute statement that we aren’t winning out. That’s the opposite of optimism.
Secondly, there’s a difference between emotional optimism and fandom optimism. Emotional optimism is what permeates the Texas A&M culture - they cannot see negatives no matter what. I can expound on that, but that’s why they’ve always been mediocre. Fandom optimism is believing the best case possible for your team, and in this case, I believe that our team is able to beat Alabama and compete with Georgia. I am not ready to say, “we cannot win out”, because I do not believe it.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:48 am to LSUTitan99
LSU will not get in above a one loss acc champ FSU or a one loss Big 12 champ Texas.
SEC lost high profile out of conference games to the pac 12, ACC, and Big 12. They are not seen as the dominant conference this year.
That being said, I think as long as Georga has 12 wins, they will be grandfathered in for winning the last 2 titles (not saying this is fair but that’s just usually how it works).
SEC lost high profile out of conference games to the pac 12, ACC, and Big 12. They are not seen as the dominant conference this year.
That being said, I think as long as Georga has 12 wins, they will be grandfathered in for winning the last 2 titles (not saying this is fair but that’s just usually how it works).
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:48 am to LSUTitan99
Beat Auburn
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:50 am to Boyntonbeach Tiger
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Beat Auburn
Ah yes, the second refrain from The Optimism Police - focus on the game at hand.
Dude, we are FANS, we can talk about any game or games at any point in the past, present or future and it has ZERO effect on how the current LSU team will play in the upcoming game.
But also, “Beat Auburn” is one facet of winning out.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:56 am to LSUTitan99
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Remember 2007? Or last year when we were in if we beat A&M and UGA?
It took stars aligning. All the other conferences have multiple teams that are still undefeated and looking good or through their toughest games.
This is what needs to happen:
Big 12: OU to lose 2 games & Texas to lose another
Pac12: USC, Oregon, Washington all need to lose 2
Big10: OSU, Michigan & PSU need to lose 2
ACC: FSU needs to lose 3 or They need to lose 2 & not win the ACC
SIMPLE
And that’s just to have “an argument” to get in. Probably would get in because of how recent the other’s losses would be but you think 2 loss LSU is getting in over 2 loss Texas?
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:02 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 8:59 am to LSUTitan99
The only SEC in four team playoff would most likely be Georgia. If not, then no SEC team.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:00 am to paulb52
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The only SEC in four team playoff would most likely be Georgia. If not, then no SEC team.
Bama would get in, you know that lol
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:01 am to LSUTitan99
No
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:19 am to LSUTitan99
Didn't we have this same exact conversation last year?!? How did that work out? Oh we laid an absolute stinky egg at A&M.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:22 am to LSUTitan99
We blew it losing to ole piss
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:38 am to LSUTitan99
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LSU would be in the Playoff over UGA if we won out
It is compltely and 100% dependent on the other P5 champions.
A 2-loss team has never made the playoffs, although there have been cases (like Auburn in 2017 for instance) where that WOULD have happened had things gone just a bit different.
Forget UGA for a minute, the debate would be does an 11-2 SEC champion have a bvetter resume than the other P5 champs? Assuming the winners of the PAC/Big 10/Big 12/ACC have 0 or 1 loss, LSU is out. As is UGA.
The real quesiton isn't would LSU make it over UGA it's would LSU make it over another P5 champ wiht less losses than them.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:41 am to lsu711
quote:then UGA wouldn’t be a one loss team. UGA is going to beat Ole Miss in Athens. LSU virtually controls their own destiny in the SEC. Ole Miss already has 1 conf. loss
What if Ole Miss wins out?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:44 am to WG_Dawg
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Forget UGA for a minute, the debate would be does an 11-2 SEC champion have a bvetter resume than the other P5 champs? Assuming the winners of the PAC/Big 10/Big 12/ACC have 0 or 1 loss, LSU is out. As is UGA.
Correct line of thinking. Look at the current standings.
ACC - FL St - 4
Big 10 - Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State 2 & 3 & 6
Big 12 - Oklahoma and Texas 5 & 9
Pac - wide open w USC, Oregon, Washington
Any of those teams would likely make a 4 team playoff over a 2 loss LSU who is SEC champs.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:48 am to jbird7
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No 2 loss team is getting into the playoff. Some of y’all need to come to terms with that.
If LSU can run the table through SECCG and have JD as a Heisman winner we have a greater chance. The committee knows this is all about the Benjamins. Heisman winner in the playoffs is a story they can sell.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:50 am to LSUTitan99
If UGA loses a game or the SECCG then the 4 team playoff will be:
1) undefeated or 1-loss Big 10 champion
2) Undefeated or 1-loss PAC-12 champion
3) Undefeated Oklahoma
4) Whoever goes Undefeated and wins the ACC between Florida State, Louisville or UNC. None of those teams play each other during the season so one of them will finish undefeated.
Big 10 and pac-12 conferences are too strong to not allow a 1-loss team but someone out of those conferences likely finishes undefeated between PSU, OSU and Michigan. No one left on Oklahoma’s schedule to beat them. UGAs schedule is so weak that if they have one loss and don’t win their conference championship then they’ll be out. Real good chance SEC finally gets left out if UGA loses the SECCG this year.
Such a joke the comparisons I’ve seen comparing this year to 2007. No one was undefeated that year
Eta moral of the story is 2-loss LSU wouldn’t be in the playoffs. They would’ve last year but even if they run the table, not happening this year. Get the playoffs out of your head now.
1) undefeated or 1-loss Big 10 champion
2) Undefeated or 1-loss PAC-12 champion
3) Undefeated Oklahoma
4) Whoever goes Undefeated and wins the ACC between Florida State, Louisville or UNC. None of those teams play each other during the season so one of them will finish undefeated.
Big 10 and pac-12 conferences are too strong to not allow a 1-loss team but someone out of those conferences likely finishes undefeated between PSU, OSU and Michigan. No one left on Oklahoma’s schedule to beat them. UGAs schedule is so weak that if they have one loss and don’t win their conference championship then they’ll be out. Real good chance SEC finally gets left out if UGA loses the SECCG this year.
Such a joke the comparisons I’ve seen comparing this year to 2007. No one was undefeated that year
Eta moral of the story is 2-loss LSU wouldn’t be in the playoffs. They would’ve last year but even if they run the table, not happening this year. Get the playoffs out of your head now.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:51 am to dallastiger55
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The B1G is the biggest issue IMO. They could very well have 3 teams that could cause a problem.
Michigan loses to Penn St in two weeks in Happy Valley
Penn St loses to Ohio St in Columbus
Michigan beats Ohio St in Ann Arbor
Michigan wins B1G CG
You'd have:
12-1 Michigan with a win over Ohio St
11-1 Penn St with a win over Michigan
11-1 Ohio St with a win over Penn St
It's not a 3 team B10, but the fact that there are so many more deserving teams from all the P5 conferences. A lot of losses have to occur when you consider that the SEC currently has a losing record against P5 conferences, and will probably end up with a losing record or tie at best.
As an aside, and it doesn't effect your argument at all, but in the scenario you give, but looking at the B10 tie-breaking rules, I think the tie-breaker for the CG will be drawing straws.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:52 am to GetmorewithLes
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If LSU can run the table through SECCG and have JD as a Heisman winner we have a greater chance. The committee knows this is all about the Benjamins. Heisman winner in the playoffs is a story they can sell.
All of that is completely irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what the other P5 champs did. If there are 4 other P5 champions that have either 0 or 1 loss, LSu is not getting in.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:53 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
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Who_Dat_Tiger
You are correct. The ONLY shot they'd have is if one of the other P5 champs ended up having 2 losses as well, at which point LSU would be a lock based on the strength of their wins.
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