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re: LSU Won 24-3. The blatant cheating by the SEC still has me irrationally angry....
Posted on 8/31/25 at 6:52 pm to yccsmf
Posted on 8/31/25 at 6:52 pm to yccsmf
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What's your opinion on the overturned touchdown? I thought he had possession and made a football move, so it should have been a touchdown.
I’m 57 years old, so I’m calling that a catch and a touchdown all day long. But with the rules these days I’m completely clueless. I guess they said he didn’t control the ball and complete the catch?
That's where I'm at, and I'm about the same age and have the same perspective on football.
I remember when a catch was simply that the receiver caught the ball, instead of bouncing off him. Then, we began looking at sideline/endzone plays, and replay- did he bobble it before crossing the line?
In this point of view, that was CLEARLY a TD, as it would have been for many decades. He had clear control of the ball, got one foot down in bounds, and crossed the goal line.
The issue now, is the whole "definition of a catch". I GUESS (without any links or knowledge), that because he got 2 feet down (1st in, second OOB past the goalline), and then went down to the ground, the whole "must control the ball through contact with the ground" technicality is what applies. And when he does go to the ground, the ball moves. It doesn't come free, it merely moves.
Where it gets more confusing, with some of these rules, is the fact that his second foot come down out of bounds.
If he was inbounds the whole time, I think the only requirement is the ball can't bounce free and away from him. But since he also stepped out of bounds, I think maybe he has to have complete, motionless control of the ball before he steps out (he DID), and all the way through the contact with the ground, until impact is "finished"... meaning basically, until he is done bouncing himself, rolling etc from hitting the ground. Slide to a stop.
At which point, ... I don't know.
I DO know they asked Mike Perrera, the "rules expert", very quickly- when they announced it was under review. And his first reaction was "No, that's a touchdown, not down at the one".
And when they announced what they did, they again showed it, and he said "no... I'd say touchdown".
Then someone shut him up quickly.
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 6:55 pm to SludgeFactory
The no call on the intentional grounding was awful.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 6:56 pm to Guzzlingil
All of them...
Posted on 8/31/25 at 6:58 pm to Scoob
It's a fungible rule used to influence the outcome of games. There is no other explanation.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:09 pm to castorinho
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Jesus fricking Christ man. You guys cry about the refs even after a huge win. Enjoy the big win on the road against a top 5 opponent and stfu pussy.
There were two huge replay calls that went against LSU on the same type of play. There is no planet where the Sharp fumble and the TD overturn can co-exists. One led to 3 points for Clemson and the other took 6 points off the board.
The rest of the stuff is run-of-the-mill incompetence.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:20 pm to SludgeFactory
With all the other calls that went against LSU last night, I was frankly surprised that they didn’t call roughing the passer on Perkins on the final fourth down play.
It looked like Perkins grazed Klubnik’s facemask just after he threw the ball. I think Klubnik was asking for the flag but, thankfully, didn’t get it.
It looked like Perkins grazed Klubnik’s facemask just after he threw the ball. I think Klubnik was asking for the flag but, thankfully, didn’t get it.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:31 pm to White Tiger
quote:I can say this=
It's a fungible rule used to influence the outcome of games. There is no other explanation.
the Early Doucet catch to beat Arizona State back in 2005 is incomplete in yesterday's game.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:56 pm to SludgeFactory
Did you include the intentional groundings??. I kind of skimmed through it
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:17 pm to SludgeFactory
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At least 3-4 times we saw Clemson line up with too many men on the LOS, then run a pass play
Im not following this one. You can pass with 10 men on the LOS. However the only eligible receivers in this case are the ends if properly numbered
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:23 pm to saturncube21
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Refs blatantly were doing everything in their powers to help Clemson win -sickening
And Clemson fans are saying they were cheating for LSU. Idiots on both sides.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:47 pm to White Tiger
apparently not, but it seemed like Clemson got a lot more replays than us. I don’t mean to bitch, but at the time and how the game was going it was frustrating towards me.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:04 pm to TigerKing19
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I apologize bro on the dense comment. If I'm wrong I'm wrong.
Fair enough.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:50 am to mcpotiger
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From Lafayette huh? Son of Goober looking frick.
Does anyone know if he's a USL grad?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:16 am to SludgeFactory
Listen to the argument you are making. The SEC refs are cheating to help the out of conference team beat the SEC team because SEC refs…what? They hate the SEC?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:57 am to TygerTyger
I really don't know anything about the referees & I am really pi$$ed about some of the calls/non-calls. However, the ref on the field called Barion's play a catch at the 1/2 yard line only to be overturned by b'ham. It's my opinion only, but b'ham is the bigger problem that seems to consistently undermine LSU at very critical moments in games!
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:05 am to TygerTyger
We were calling him Gomer Pyle all night. Was giving me flashbacks of that bug-eyed f’er from the Bama series’ a few years back.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:17 am to Mr.Perfect
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Im not following this one. You can pass with 10 men on the LOS
Yes, we understood all of that. I am saying the ineligible WR/TE whatever did go downfield for a pass. Like I said, we have guys that played in the SEC at these parties. They know the rules quite well.
The replay of the OPI that was picked up was what the old timers called a "clip" back in the day. Guy came back and took out the defender almost from behind. If LSU had run that play, it would have either been called illegal pick or blindside hit. Period.
Either way, the fact that this team can overcome game altering calls by SEC officials and the replay team says a lot. This is a team good enough to make a run. This won't be the last time this season the SEC will pull something like this. Hopefully we won't have an SEC crew anywhere near our playoff games.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:39 pm to 62zip
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Assuming. So what happens when a receiver who is supposed to be on the field and isn't?
It's not a foul.
I'm aware. which is why I posted both the rule itself and my sentence.
no you don't "have to" have 7 on the line.
unless you have your full allotment of players on the field (which will be somewhere above 99% of the time).
but this still goes back to the OP saying "too many on LOS" which does not exist.
the rule gives a maximum amount off the line, but not a maximum amount on the line.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 9:16 am to MikeD
The ball can touch the ground & move as long as he maintains CONTROL of the ball - Which he most certainly did.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:00 am to ChatGPT of LA
He can both be a great guy and suck at being a referee.
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