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LSU team SEC ranking in offensive and defensive stats for SEC games only
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:33 pm
These are the rankings within the SEC in only the 8 SEC games for each team.
Offense
Rushing (yards per attempt) - 12th
Passing (yards per attempt) - 12th
Total yards per play - 10th
Scoring (points per game) - 8th
Defense
Rushing (yards allowed per attempt) - 15th - Needs to improve greatly (healthy Guillory should help)
Passing (yards allowed per attempt) - 5th - HUGE improvement over 2023
Total yards allowed per play - 11th
Scoring (points allowed per game) - 10th
With those stats, 5-3 SEC record was fortunate (SC and Ole Miss were very close and went Tigers' way). Have to get better to compete for SEC championship and playoffs (obviously).
SEC football stats from secsports.com
(scroll down to see SEC game only stats)
Offense
Rushing (yards per attempt) - 12th
Passing (yards per attempt) - 12th
Total yards per play - 10th
Scoring (points per game) - 8th
Defense
Rushing (yards allowed per attempt) - 15th - Needs to improve greatly (healthy Guillory should help)
Passing (yards allowed per attempt) - 5th - HUGE improvement over 2023
Total yards allowed per play - 11th
Scoring (points allowed per game) - 10th
With those stats, 5-3 SEC record was fortunate (SC and Ole Miss were very close and went Tigers' way). Have to get better to compete for SEC championship and playoffs (obviously).
SEC football stats from secsports.com
(scroll down to see SEC game only stats)
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 7:34 pm
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:43 pm to NorthEndZone
Brian Kelly and Joe Sloan = Les Miles and Cam Cameron and he deserves every bit of heat he gets next year if Joe Sloan is offensive coordinator and the offense under performs from lack of physicality and play design in the run game and the red zone and just overall playcalling
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:47 pm to Lark225
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Brian Kelly and Joe Sloan = Les Miles and Cam Cameron
Have yet to see any I formation or dive tosses. These comparisons are terrible.
Plus learn how to properly form sentences & use punctuation.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:51 pm to Lark225
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Brian Kelly and Joe Sloan = Les Miles and Cam Cameron and he deserves every bit of heat he gets next year if Joe Sloan is offensive coordinator and the offense under performs from lack of physicality and play design in the run game and the red zone and just overall playcalling
Listen.
BK deserves every bit of heat about making the hires in the first place but I do find one thing refreshing.
Last year it was reported that Kelly was getting involved with the defense the last game or two because of house’s performance and we were dramatically better in the tamu game. (Iirc playsheet was out in the second half of that game)
This year the last two games he has had a playsheet out and the play calling was much more imaginative and improved.
But it’s nice to have a coach who is smart enough to improve a unit and not hurt it.
Seems like he should meddle more.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:55 pm to NorthEndZone
Why not also in your post include the part about LSU having the 5th overall Offense?
It doesn’t help in the rushing yards per game stat when you are last in number of rushing attempts per game.
It doesn’t help in the rushing yards per game stat when you are last in number of rushing attempts per game.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:55 pm to Adam Banks
Yeah it would be nice if he didn’t wait until the last 2 games each year to try to improve the side of the ball that is struggling. Or just hire competent coordinators so he doesn’t have to meddle as much.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:56 pm to Hoodatt
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It doesn’t help in the rushing yards per game stat when you are last in number of rushing attempts per game.
The stat he listed is rushing yards per attempt, not rushing yards per game…
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:01 pm to LSBoosie
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Yeah it would be nice if he didn’t wait until the last 2 games each year to try to improve the side of the ball that is struggling. Or just hire competent coordinators so he doesn’t have to meddle as much.
I said he deserves every bit of criticism for the hires.
I’m just saying it would have been a terrifying thing to have miles out there with a play sheet.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:04 pm to NorthEndZone
Amazing how bad our rush offense was this year.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:04 pm to Adam Banks
I’m not disagreeing with you, just making a statement. I’ll give him credit for stabilizing the program among other things. I just won’t give him credit for stepping in during the last two games of the season to try to fix the mistakes of his bad hires.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:07 pm to Adam Banks
Miles was never willing to go with a coordinator that strayed from his idea of offense once Crowton left. Kelly has a history of acknowledging mistakes in hires and correcting them, ala House to Baker (look past the stats, the defense looked way better this year and has me excited to see what Baker can do with a full offseason).
After Underwood decommitted, that probably solidified Sloan being canned or demoted. I don’t mind if he stays as a QB coach, he’s a solid QB coach, but you’ve gotta get another playcaller.
After Underwood decommitted, that probably solidified Sloan being canned or demoted. I don’t mind if he stays as a QB coach, he’s a solid QB coach, but you’ve gotta get another playcaller.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:08 pm to LSBoosie
Correct.
Someone obviously realized that we were not going to get the yards on the ground. On the other hand, we had the highest number of pass attempts.
Someone obviously realized that we were not going to get the yards on the ground. On the other hand, we had the highest number of pass attempts.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:26 pm to Hoodatt
I used yards per play because IMO it gives a better indication of effectiveness rushing or passing - not the end result yardage-wise from number of attempts.
If you look strictly at yards per game, LSU was 2nd in passing and LAST in rushing (obviously because the coaches saw we were much better passing than rushing).
That was also good for 3rd in total offense because pass plays produce about 3 or 4 yards more than run plays per attempt on average.
But we were 8th in scoring offense due to turnovers and red-zone scoring issues (most FGs attempted and made also).
If you look strictly at yards per game, LSU was 2nd in passing and LAST in rushing (obviously because the coaches saw we were much better passing than rushing).
That was also good for 3rd in total offense because pass plays produce about 3 or 4 yards more than run plays per attempt on average.
But we were 8th in scoring offense due to turnovers and red-zone scoring issues (most FGs attempted and made also).
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:53 am to BigBrod81
Cbk loses to clemson and you will see what I'm saying.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 12:56 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 5:28 am to Lark225
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Cbk loses to clemson and you will see what I'm saying.
But Les Miles won almost all his openers and almost every non-conference game. So your comparison is getting worse.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:14 am to Riolobo
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Amazing how bad our rush offense was this year.
THIS! I would offer it is/was the biggest glaring issue with so many impacts on other facets of the game.
Win the LOS, sustain drives, field position, eat up clock, make the passing game more lethal & less predictable, give the D a rest, etc, etc.
When you look at the OL we have, even with Dellinger out a few games, this unit should have played better to support the RB room.
The RB room with J. Williams, sans C. Durham (with a foot injury), K. Jackson and J. Johnson must work harder to read the right hole, hit it quickly, and break that 1st tackle. Other than C. Durham and recently J. Williams, this position group also underperformed.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:21 am to NorthEndZone
What about the raw numbers? LSU's offense on paper was quite proficient: 432 yards/game total offense and 315 yards passing/game. Both would seem to be pretty high among SEC teams
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:40 am to tarzana
Yeah these are kind of cherry picked stats to make things seem worse than they actually were especially on offense.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 9:50 am to NorthEndZone
ALL rushing yards count no matter who the ball carrier is, but it would be interesting to see rushing yards against LSU broken out by QB yardage and RB yardage. For the most part, LSU has stopped the RB runs pretty darn well this year. The reason LSU is ranked 12th in rushing defense per attempt is because Milroe, Reed, and Sellars and to some degree Dart and Arnold (1st half mainly for him) "ran up" the results.
IMO, the biggest mistake many of this board made was that the LSU DT situation would be a disaster. That turned out to be total nonsense. Even with Guillory hurt early in the season, the LSU DTs more than held than own. QB runs are NOT the responsibility of the DTs.
IMO, the biggest mistake many of this board made was that the LSU DT situation would be a disaster. That turned out to be total nonsense. Even with Guillory hurt early in the season, the LSU DTs more than held than own. QB runs are NOT the responsibility of the DTs.
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